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whatif british M4A3 HVSS Firefly
armagh5
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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 12:50 PM UTC
Guys
just weathered this one while waiting on another build to dry
its an 8th Kings Royal Irish Haussars tank
the build has mistakes in it but i built it a few years ago when i just got back into
the hobby
its all brush painted including the markings in humbrol enamels
i dont have an air brush
illprobably put a different crew in it some time
all comments welcome
regards andrew





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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 12:56 PM UTC
nice a bit to much rust on the upper surfaces.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 03:06 PM UTC
Nice job Andrew !!!
I started to build a similar "what if" Firefly a couple of years ago.
Using a Tamiya M4A3E2 Jumbo Sherman as a base kit, I added a Tank Workshop Jumbo Turret and up-armoured transmission cover, a Jordi Rubio 17pdr barrel, a Dragon HVSS Suspension and some AFV Club T66 "rubber band" type tracks.
I decided to convert it to a "Super Sherman" with a T26E3 Pershing turret, similar to a prototype that the Americans started to develop at the Detroit Arsenal in 1944.
As usual, it's currently lounging on a shelf in my hobby room gathering dust with a pile of other shelf queens.
Thanks for giving me some inspiration to complete it !!!
FYI - Apparently the British started to convert some M4A3's into Fireflys for the U.S. Army.

http://freespace.virgin.net/shermanic.firefly/home1.htm

Interesting stuff !!!
Cheers

jjumbo
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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 04:32 PM UTC
It's a wet stowage hull, so the applique armor plates don't belong there (and the Firefly ammunition stowage wasn't in those sponson positions, so the Brits wouldn't add it either). That variant (M4A3 hull with HVSS and high bustle turret) was actually manufactured for the US Army by the British in the Spring of 1945, but the small number of 17 Pounder tanks delivered to the US were apparently never issued, as the war was in its final stages, and German armor was mostly absent at that point (Steve Zaloga does a 1/48th scale build in one of his Osprey books on Modelling the Sherman Tank). Their receipt was documented in Army records, but nobody appears to have thought to take any pictures. The last few at the factory were returned to the British, but the UK didn't have parts in their supply chain for the Ford engine, so it's doubtful anything was done with them. In all likelihood, the whole batch was scrapped.
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Posted: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 - 09:20 PM UTC
Looks great Andrew, nicely done without using an airbrush! Thanks for sharing.

Cheers -

Tim
armagh5
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 11:58 AM UTC
thanks for your comments
the build has mistakes in it
i think ill leave it as it is
im just relieved i got the paint job a bit better
i think ill put different figures in it some time
regards andrew
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Posted: Sunday, November 16, 2008 - 01:58 PM UTC
Andrew errors aside which I would not know about, great build. I thought the colours on the top were to indicate mud and grime from the crew and troops blagging a lift, if that is the case I like it and the variation in colour is good to my eyes.
armagh5
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Posted: Wednesday, November 19, 2008 - 11:39 AM UTC

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Andrew errors aside which I would not know about, great build. I thought the colours on the top were to indicate mud and grime from the crew and troops blagging a lift, if that is the case I like it and the variation in colour is good to my eyes.


thanks darren
yes that what its supposed to be
fresh mud from tank riders
im quite pleased with it
but i still need to practice painting
regards andrew
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