was there a difference between the regular US army uniform and an airborne troop uniform. by this i mean after they have dropped and were in battle.
i know they had the parachute, but once they were on the ground, i am pretty sure it was completely dropped
besides the arm badge and the little logo on the helmet, was there a difference
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youpey
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 01:15 PM UTC
trahe
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 01:25 PM UTC
If you are talking WWII, yes, the uniforms were different, if you're talking modern era, no, they are not.
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 01:27 PM UTC
Hi Mike,
You will probably get more/better answers if you post this topic at Historicus Forma, under the Research forum.
Chas
You will probably get more/better answers if you post this topic at Historicus Forma, under the Research forum.
Chas
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 03:43 PM UTC
The uniform was different, they wore jump boots, and even the helmet was a slightly different model (M1C I believe, the primary difference was IIRC in the chin strap.) The device, indicating regiment and battalion, on the side was, I believe, only worn by the 101st. Now I'm not sure about the uniforms of the glider borne elements of the Airborne.
As the war went on, and the 101st and 82nd served more as regular (albeit elite) infantry, many troopers acquired pieces of equipment from the regular infatry as needed, for example trrops in the open who could acquire winter shoe packs did so (in the winter of course) although the jump boot was seen as largely superior to the run of the mill GI footwear. In the same way units picked up BARs as well as .50 caliber M2 machine guns. Of course, I am far from an expert on WW2 uniforms, undoubtedly others can give you more and better info.
John
As the war went on, and the 101st and 82nd served more as regular (albeit elite) infantry, many troopers acquired pieces of equipment from the regular infatry as needed, for example trrops in the open who could acquire winter shoe packs did so (in the winter of course) although the jump boot was seen as largely superior to the run of the mill GI footwear. In the same way units picked up BARs as well as .50 caliber M2 machine guns. Of course, I am far from an expert on WW2 uniforms, undoubtedly others can give you more and better info.
John
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Posted: Thursday, November 13, 2008 - 04:34 PM UTC
The uniforms of the Paratroopers were bulkier and more loose fitting. They have the look almost of modern cargo pants with the bottom tucked into jump boots. The Jump Pants had large Cargo pockets on the side to hold rations and what not since they wouldn't be resupplied as quickly. They also had bulkier jackets with four pockets. The looser clothing was better suited for parachute landings. The Helmets themselves were the same it was the "D-Bale" chip strap which was different. Some troopers put an extra layer of fabric over the elbows and knees of their uniform to reinforce it. Depending on the time of the war the two uniforms were slightly different.
Glider Riders wore the standard infantry uniform with a "D-Bale" Helmet.
Take a look around Mark Bando's site for a lot more details and pictures
Mark Bando's Site
Glider Riders wore the standard infantry uniform with a "D-Bale" Helmet.
Take a look around Mark Bando's site for a lot more details and pictures
Mark Bando's Site
youpey
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 01:41 AM UTC
thanks for the great information
is this an airborne trooper set. i believe it is, but it doesnt say airborne on it
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMUV6
i know there is dragon operation varsity airborne set, but i dislike the poses of the figures for what i want to do. the one above with the link is a little closer to what i need
is this an airborne trooper set. i believe it is, but it doesnt say airborne on it
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMUV6
i know there is dragon operation varsity airborne set, but i dislike the poses of the figures for what i want to do. the one above with the link is a little closer to what i need
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 01:54 AM UTC
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thanks for the great information
is this an airborne trooper set. i believe it is, but it doesnt say airborne on it
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXMUV6
i know there is dragon operation varsity airborne set, but i dislike the poses of the figures for what i want to do. the one above with the link is a little closer to what i need
No, those are not paratroopers. You could try Dragon's set 6010, US Paratroopers in Normandy.
John
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 02:00 AM UTC
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You will probably get more/better answers if you post this topic at Historicus Forma, under the Research forum.
Well, the answers have all been pretty complete so far....
youngc
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 02:14 AM UTC
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Well, the answers have all been pretty complete so far....
Jim, you know as well as I do that this is the incorrect place for such a question.
I am baffled at Mike's descision to post this question here, in the dioramas forum??
Anyway, he got his question answered in the end, which is all that matters. Just keep in mind for next time that the Research forum is there, do use it.
Chas
youpey
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 02:20 AM UTC
hi guys. thanks for all the great replies. i wasnt sure if the rangers were the same as the airborne. i dont know much, but trying to learn
i think i will pick up both the operation varsity and the normandy kits as there is 2 figures from each set that will work with what i am looking for.
ok one last question, and i dont know if it is available or if i have to make it custom (which i might be able to do.), does anyone make an airborne trooper with his arms dropped to his side and his legs strait down. i am looking to make a scene with an airborne trooper hanging from a tree. once i can find that, i will be done. unfortunately that one figure will be instrumental in my design.
thank you to everyone who has helped so far. My marder is halfway built now, so i am getting close to the time for the other purchases
i think i will pick up both the operation varsity and the normandy kits as there is 2 figures from each set that will work with what i am looking for.
ok one last question, and i dont know if it is available or if i have to make it custom (which i might be able to do.), does anyone make an airborne trooper with his arms dropped to his side and his legs strait down. i am looking to make a scene with an airborne trooper hanging from a tree. once i can find that, i will be done. unfortunately that one figure will be instrumental in my design.
thank you to everyone who has helped so far. My marder is halfway built now, so i am getting close to the time for the other purchases
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 02:33 AM UTC
Today Rangers are generally Airborne qualified. In WW2 they generally weren't. In WW2 they were pretty much leg infantry, with a higher level of training, and were often used on specific, difficult missions, for example on D-Day the big Ranger mission was scaling the cliffs at Pont du Hoc to attack a German Battery. In the Phillipines the classic ranger mission was the raid to release the prisoners at the Cabanatuan prison camp before the Japanese could kill them.
John
John
youpey
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 02:37 AM UTC
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Quoted TextWell, the answers have all been pretty complete so far....
Jim, you know as well as I do that this is the incorrect place for such a question.
I am baffled at Mike's descision to post this question here, in the dioramas forum??
Anyway, he got his question answered in the end, which is all that matters. Just keep in mind for next time that the Research forum is there, do use it.
Chas
sorry, i posted it here because the figures will be used for a dio, and it is going to be an airborne specific dio. it relies on airborne figures. i will remember for next time where to post
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 03:12 AM UTC
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Quoted TextQuoted TextWell, the answers have all been pretty complete so far....
Jim, you know as well as I do that this is the incorrect place for such a question.
I am baffled at Mike's descision to post this question here, in the dioramas forum??
Anyway, he got his question answered in the end, which is all that matters. Just keep in mind for next time that the Research forum is there, do use it.
Chas
sorry, i posted it here because the figures will be used for a dio, and it is going to be an airborne specific dio. it relies on airborne figures. i will remember for next time where to post
i would have posted it here, and it sounded like Mike was enquiring for a dio, i mean why else would it have been here,
glad its been resolved anyway,
jowady
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Posted: Friday, November 14, 2008 - 09:05 AM UTC
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ok one last question, and i dont know if it is available or if i have to make it custom (which i might be able to do.), does anyone make an airborne trooper with his arms dropped to his side and his legs strait down. i am looking to make a scene with an airborne trooper hanging from a tree. once i can find that, i will be done. unfortunately that one figure will be instrumental in my design.
Italeri has a set with a figure that you might be able to modify, the set is ita0309. I haven't seen the figures myself and so cannot speak to their quality, maybe someone here can help you further.
John
TimStreeter
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Posted: Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 03:42 AM UTC
The Italeri figures are, shall we say politely, substandard. You MIGHT be able to salvage some arms from them, that's all.
Mike, check out my site at www.usarmymodels.com. Visit the Kits and Reviews section; the companies that produce paratrooper figures are CMK, DML, Resicast, Warriors, Verlinden, Hobby Fan, Jaguar, Master Box, ADV, and Nemrod. If I don't have a review of the kit, there is a link to the manufacturer's website and you can probably see a photo of the figure there.
Also, check out the Figures References and Uniforms and Equipment sections. They should be helpful for your project.
Good luck!
Tim
Mike, check out my site at www.usarmymodels.com. Visit the Kits and Reviews section; the companies that produce paratrooper figures are CMK, DML, Resicast, Warriors, Verlinden, Hobby Fan, Jaguar, Master Box, ADV, and Nemrod. If I don't have a review of the kit, there is a link to the manufacturer's website and you can probably see a photo of the figure there.
Also, check out the Figures References and Uniforms and Equipment sections. They should be helpful for your project.
Good luck!
Tim
youpey
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Posted: Monday, November 17, 2008 - 01:50 AM UTC
thanks, that is a great review site
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