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Snow Leopards, ref pics from a recent ftx.
Erik67
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Posted: Saturday, December 06, 2008 - 11:05 PM UTC
Some pictures from an excersise last week. They give a pretty good impression of what a tank looks like during winter conditions. Enjoy
Erik
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 03:54 AM UTC
Great pics Erik!!
Many thanks for posting them.
Cheers,
Mike
Many thanks for posting them.
Cheers,
Mike
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 04:56 AM UTC
Thanks for sharing. Great shot of the intricate white camo netting and the MG3 blank adaptor.
Paul
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 06:26 AM UTC
Erik,
Thanks for posting the images......very nice looking Leopards.
The Norwegian Leopard 1A5NO has always been a favorite of mine.
Great to see the grousers being used on the tracks.
Thanks for posting the images......very nice looking Leopards.
The Norwegian Leopard 1A5NO has always been a favorite of mine.
Great to see the grousers being used on the tracks.
CMOT
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 08:24 AM UTC
Great pics thank you.
Erik67
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 09:01 AM UTC
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Great to see the grousers being used on the tracks.
He He, As you know Jason, there is no other way to get proper grip on ice and snow. Civilians hate it since the roads get "so bumpy"...
mat
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 09:15 AM UTC
these pics must be fake, I see no chipping or rust 
but serious, thx. I'm making a Dutch 1a5 from the old Tamiya kit at the moment
but serious, thx. I'm making a Dutch 1a5 from the old Tamiya kit at the moment
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 09:28 AM UTC
Great pics. Love those leopards. I really like the camo scheme. Looks sharp!
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 04:18 PM UTC
Erik,
thanks for sharing these great shots.
The spare road wheels at the turrets of the tanks in pictures 9 and 10 show additional 12 holes. Can you tell anything about the reason? I have seen it before somewhere but do not remember at the moment.
Harald
thanks for sharing these great shots.
The spare road wheels at the turrets of the tanks in pictures 9 and 10 show additional 12 holes. Can you tell anything about the reason? I have seen it before somewhere but do not remember at the moment.
Harald
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 04:37 PM UTC
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Erik,
thanks for sharing these great shots.
The spare road wheels at the turrets of the tanks in pictures 9 and 10 show additional 12 holes. Can you tell anything about the reason? I have seen it before somewhere but do not remember at the moment.
Harald
Those are spare Idler wheels with 16 bolt holes.....not road wheels.
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 05:12 PM UTC
hi erik, wow,,,very nice pictures. nice reference for snow scheme. thanks for sharing. ed 
Erik67
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Posted: Sunday, December 07, 2008 - 10:30 PM UTC
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Erik,
thanks for sharing these great shots.
The spare road wheels at the turrets of the tanks in pictures 9 and 10 show additional 12 holes. Can you tell anything about the reason? I have seen it before somewhere but do not remember at the moment.
Harald
Those are spare Idler wheels with 16 bolt holes.....not road wheels.
Yup, as Jason says, it is a spare idler wheel.
Erik
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Posted: Monday, December 08, 2008 - 03:16 AM UTC
These pictures are great! There's something about armor in the snow that does it for me!
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing!
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Posted: Monday, December 08, 2008 - 11:03 AM UTC
Jason and Erik,
it is a spare idler wheel, okay.
But I did not talk about the inner row of 16 holes. What I meant, of course, is the row of 12 [twelve] borings/deepenings between the inner row and the rim of the wheel.
Meantime I found where I had seen it before on/in a ROAD WHEEL of the Danish black recce Leopards. See picture no. 3
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/125110&page=1
Jason, here
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/message/1221234145/Road+Wheel
you said to the question: “It could be a locally manufactured or rebuilt road wheel or a test road wheel.
I think what you are seeing are actually grooves and not ribs....I think the grooves are recessed into the road wheel wall.”
Does anybody have more or newer information?
Harald
it is a spare idler wheel, okay.
But I did not talk about the inner row of 16 holes. What I meant, of course, is the row of 12 [twelve] borings/deepenings between the inner row and the rim of the wheel.
Meantime I found where I had seen it before on/in a ROAD WHEEL of the Danish black recce Leopards. See picture no. 3
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/125110&page=1
Jason, here
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/message/1221234145/Road+Wheel
you said to the question: “It could be a locally manufactured or rebuilt road wheel or a test road wheel.
I think what you are seeing are actually grooves and not ribs....I think the grooves are recessed into the road wheel wall.”
Does anybody have more or newer information?
Harald
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Posted: Monday, December 08, 2008 - 12:59 PM UTC
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Jason and Erik,
it is a spare idler wheel, okay.
But I did not talk about the inner row of 16 holes. What I meant, of course, is the row of 12 [twelve] borings/deepenings between the inner row and the rim of the wheel.
Meantime I found where I had seen it before on/in a ROAD WHEEL of the Danish black recce Leopards. See picture no. 3
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/125110&page=1
Jason, here
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/message/1221234145/Road+Wheel
you said to the question: “It could be a locally manufactured or rebuilt road wheel or a test road wheel.
I think what you are seeing are actually grooves and not ribs....I think the grooves are recessed into the road wheel wall.”
Does anybody have more or newer information?
Harald
Ahhhhhh...OK....
Yup, they are just a different kind of road wheel.....in use with at least Norway and Denmark.
The additional holes are for sure bolt holes....you can see the bolt heads.....the newer style road wheels might be a composite and made with several materials bolted together for longer life or they might have a reinforcing plate on the rear of the road wheel.........just a guess.
Erik67
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Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 12:04 AM UTC
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The additional holes are for sure bolt holes....you can see the bolt heads.....the newer style road wheels might be a composite and made with several materials bolted together for longer life or they might have a reinforcing plate on the rear of the road wheel.........just a guess.
Jason pretty much nailed it. The Idler wheel is an older type made of aluminum with a steel rim bolted to the back of the wheel for reinforcement and longer life. Newer wheels are some sort of composite aluminum/steel "glued together" and therefor you dont have the additional bolts. All wheels the Norwegian Army use are made in Germany.
Erik
I had to call my maintenance officer for this information, and I thrust it is good, since he is something of a "Mr. Leopard"...
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Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 01:40 AM UTC
Great series of pictures. Great references.
Two things I noticed - the use of the nets vs. paint camo. I guess it makes it easy to customize the netting as needed.
Thing 2 - snow shoes! As a diorama builder I'm always looking for detail like that to make a story shine. They are great and will be worked into a future build.
Two things I noticed - the use of the nets vs. paint camo. I guess it makes it easy to customize the netting as needed.
Thing 2 - snow shoes! As a diorama builder I'm always looking for detail like that to make a story shine. They are great and will be worked into a future build.
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Posted: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 - 12:52 PM UTC
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Two things I noticed - the use of the nets vs. paint camo. I guess it makes it easy to customize the netting as needed.
Camouflage paint is generally a pain in the butt....more work for the crew in the long run on exercises........putting it on and then taking it all off when it is done.....cam nets allow for changes according to terrain and the type of mission......defensive, blocking, or offensive.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 07:55 AM UTC
Great photos, makes me want to create snow angels.
What are the main external differences between the standard Leo 1a5 and the 1a5NO? Also, what country's personal gear do I see? US?
Scott
What are the main external differences between the standard Leo 1a5 and the 1a5NO? Also, what country's personal gear do I see? US?
Scott
Erik67
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 09:13 AM UTC
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What are the main external differences between the standard Leo 1a5 and the 1a5NO?
Snow grouser box on the front armour, Extended bustle rack, "Gangster cap" on the main sight.
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Also, what country's personal gear do I see? US?
All personal gear is Norwegian.
Erik
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