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Joefix Jungle Bush and Bamboo
c5flies
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 04:39 PM UTC
Scott Lodder reviews three products from Joefix Studios to add plants/foliage to our dioramas.
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bajtur
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 10:45 PM UTC
Superb stuff! Is Joefix available from any Europe based online shop?
slodder
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Posted: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 - 11:01 PM UTC
I don't specifically knowif JoeFix is distributed in Europe. JoeFix is a European company so the chances are really good. I would recommend contacting either JoeFix Studios directly or try Military Miniatures Wearhouse (MMW). MMW is an advertiser so just clik on the add or link in the review to contact them.
youngc
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 12:17 AM UTC
Hi Scott, thanks for the review on these products, I have been curious about them for some time but never seen them 'close-up'.
I can source most of these products from neighbourhood (yes, Australia is not that barren after all) and I believe that such vegetation exists in the USA if you know where to look. It can certainly be found in the UK, I've seen it there.
In fact, a few days ago, I came across some vegetation a metre 100m from my house, it appears very similar to Joefix's 'bamboo'. I will post pictures tomorrow.
I can source most of these products from neighbourhood (yes, Australia is not that barren after all) and I believe that such vegetation exists in the USA if you know where to look. It can certainly be found in the UK, I've seen it there.
In fact, a few days ago, I came across some vegetation a metre 100m from my house, it appears very similar to Joefix's 'bamboo'. I will post pictures tomorrow.
jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 12:46 AM UTC
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I can source most of these products from neighbourhood (yes, Australia is not that barren after all) and I believe that such vegetation exists in the USA if you know where to look. It can certainly be found in the UK, I've seen it there.
I can also buy Resin here in Spain, but it doesn't mean that i'm going head to head with Mig Productions or Alpine anytime soon.
What exactly is the point of comments like this? Joefix supplied the Network with items for Review. They didn't have to, but it helps THEIR product promotion, it also gives US material for Reviews. If I was producing material like this, I don't think i'd be desperately amused at someone pointing out where you can get the stuff lying about the place.
On the other hand, many of us don't have time to wander around the countryside looking for suitable vegetaion - bit like weathering powders. I can't be bothered mixing pigments, i'd sooner just pay for them from an established company like Mig or, in the case of material like this, Joefix.....
youngc
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:01 AM UTC
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I can also buy Resin here in Spain, but it doesn't mean that i'm going head to head with Mig Productions or Alpine anytime soon...
...On the other hand, many of us don't have time to wander around the countryside looking for suitable vegetaion...
Your argument there is flawed Jim. If you bought the resin, it would still cost you a lot of money, a lot of time and you probably won't get the results that MIG or Alpine could provide you with.
I can take a 10 minute bike ride or a walk, get in some exercise and come back with a natural product equal or better than Joefix's.
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What exactly is the point of comments like this?
My point Jim, is to represent the other half of us who DO have the time, who DON'T have $21.99 to spend on 'bamboo' which probably falls from a tree near Joefix's house.
However, if you don't have the time but do have the money, go ahead and buy this product. I do apologise for not properly thanking Scott for an honest review of these products. It was good to see what they looked like.
Chas
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:10 AM UTC
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I can take a 10 minute bike ride or a walk, get in some exercise and come back with a product equal or better than Joefix's.
Then do it. Don't use THIS thread though to express (what looks like) a criticism of a commercial company who was good enough to supply the Network with Review samples. This thread is about comments of the Joefix range which Scott Reviewed - not about suggesting alternatives. Scott, whose judgement is WELL proven, felt this was a good, reasonably-priced product. Buy it or not, but please don't undermine the company's efforts...
Start another thread by all means. Unfortunately comments like this are similar to walking into a restaurant and promoting his competitor next door...
elph
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:41 AM UTC
EVERYBODY JUST CALM DOWN. Sorry, couldn't resist 
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What do you expect JIm... they're hobbyists. I never met a modeller that didn't complain or lady, since I used to work in a hobby shop. Even if we'd sell at cost they'd still say it's too expensive.
I became normal after getting out.
. What do you expect JIm... they're hobbyists. I never met a modeller that didn't complain or lady, since I used to work in a hobby shop. Even if we'd sell at cost they'd still say it's too expensive.
I became normal after getting out.
martyncrowther
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:46 AM UTC
All Chas is saying is that yes its a good product but there is a lot of vegitation you can pick up.
Yes me and Chas are still at school, we have not got full time jobs to go and buy pigments that have been ready mixed.
Claude gets nearly all of his vegitation from a forest near by!
Martyn
It still looks a really nice product but at $21 I will go for a healthy walk and look.
Yes me and Chas are still at school, we have not got full time jobs to go and buy pigments that have been ready mixed.
Claude gets nearly all of his vegitation from a forest near by!
Martyn
It still looks a really nice product but at $21 I will go for a healthy walk and look.
youngc
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:47 AM UTC
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What exactly is the point of comments like this?
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Then do it. Don't use THIS thread though to express (what looks like) a criticism of a commercial company who was good enough to supply the Network with Review samples. This thread is about comments of the Joefix range which Scott Reviewed - not about suggesting alternatives. Scott, whose judgement is WELL proven, felt this was a good, reasonably-priced product. Buy it or not, but please don't undermine the company's efforts
Start another thread by all means. Unfortunately comments like this are similar to walking into a restaurant and promoting his competitor next door......
Well Jim, it sounds as if you knew exactly what the point of my post was. Why didn't you just tell me in the first place that I shouldn't be suggesting alternatives in threads like this.
Technically I am discussing, expanding and ultimately disagreeing with part of what Scott said in his review:
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Some of us have quick access in our gardens to some of the plants we want to model. Too often we don't, we live in the states and we want to model a PTO or jungle scene. Unlike in the after market world for model kits, there aren't lots of manufacturers or distributors of these types of products.
Do you expect me just to agree with this statement? I think that there is another distributor, and that's nature. I've chosen to expand by trying to help those who wish to explore this avenue.
Sure, if it's wrong to do it here, I'll start another thread next time. Just tell me straight up Jim.
bill1
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 01:58 AM UTC
Yo Boys,
Great stuff indeed...I used some Joefix products to and i must say that they are very realistic en well matching for our dio's.
Greetz Nico
Great stuff indeed...I used some Joefix products to and i must say that they are very realistic en well matching for our dio's.
Greetz Nico
Shadowfax
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 03:04 AM UTC
One of the interesting things about this product is that it comes from nature. The size and scale (1:35) of bamboo can only be "reproduced" by natural means.
I think it's GREAT, and hope it encourages folks to look around their own surroundings. Once you get into modeling, you will never look at a piece of tin foil the same again.
Did that sound too Zen?
Mark Lopiccola
I think it's GREAT, and hope it encourages folks to look around their own surroundings. Once you get into modeling, you will never look at a piece of tin foil the same again.
Did that sound too Zen?
Mark Lopiccola
newfish
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 04:32 AM UTC
good for you jim if you can splash cash 
but its hard to rais funds if your still in full time education
chas has made a valid point and hes not trying to undermime the product in focus here
hes jst saying what he prefers and he can get the same result without spending a penny
theres really no need to jump all over him just for a comment like that
but its hard to rais funds if your still in full time education
chas has made a valid point and hes not trying to undermime the product in focus here
hes jst saying what he prefers and he can get the same result without spending a penny
theres really no need to jump all over him just for a comment like that
jimbrae
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Posted: Thursday, December 11, 2008 - 04:45 AM UTC
Chas made a VERY valid point, but not IMO, in a thread about a commercial product which was provided to THIS Site for Review...
Geezer34
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 06:59 PM UTC
The bamboo looks really scale (1/35), but the others seem a bit heavy. in Southern Oregon there are three scale looking items ( plus lichen which is so common as not to count) the first grows on oak bark and looks remarkably like evergreen branches. It has very fine texture, which is where most other plants don't quite make it. The second grows on Madrone bark and is long, vine like, and looks good as a climbing plant on walls. The third is a tree leaf from the mimosa, which has 3" long minibranches covered with opposed 3/10" leaflets - very tropical and junglelike. The problem with most of these is that when they dry, they become brittle and/or curl up.
So far I have tried the glycerin/acetone/alcohol mix that is supposed to work with lichens and also water based varnish which makes them brittle. i have yet to try Carbowax, which is a water soluble wax that replaces the water in cells - so prevents shrinkage and collapse. I have used it on larger wood products before. Does anybody have any favorite mixes that work?
So far I have tried the glycerin/acetone/alcohol mix that is supposed to work with lichens and also water based varnish which makes them brittle. i have yet to try Carbowax, which is a water soluble wax that replaces the water in cells - so prevents shrinkage and collapse. I have used it on larger wood products before. Does anybody have any favorite mixes that work?
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