Well, I wanted an early war tank but wound up in 1943....again! can't seem to get away from Kharkov either. Here is Pz. II Ausf. F "559" from LAH, Winter,1943.
Interior:
Exterior:
About the build: Used Tamiya Enamels and Windsor and Newton Oils. This was the first time attempting the chipped paint look and I used the salt method found in the features section. Its Dragons kit 6263 and construction was a breeze. This was also my first attempt constructing PE on the tank. It was also the first time using oil paints.
Enjoy, and as always, comments are welcome! thanks guys.
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Panzer II Ausf. F
integraguy95
Tennessee, United States
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Posted: Saturday, December 13, 2008 - 08:51 PM UTC
Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 10:35 PM UTC
Hej Justin
Nice looking build.
What lets your model down, is how the winter camo is rubbed off. The chips/faded patches are too large, and unrealistic. Smaller patches "painted" on corners and raised details is an easier way to get a nicer effect.
It appears to me you have skipped the ground painting skills ... and went to extreme weathering techniques directly. Your building skills look good .... but my advise is concentrate on basic painting technigues like dry brushing, washes and filters. You can turn out an excellent model with these few skills alone .... and eventhough they´ll be used less as you devlop your bag of skills, you need to know when and how to use them.
Nice looking build.
What lets your model down, is how the winter camo is rubbed off. The chips/faded patches are too large, and unrealistic. Smaller patches "painted" on corners and raised details is an easier way to get a nicer effect.
It appears to me you have skipped the ground painting skills ... and went to extreme weathering techniques directly. Your building skills look good .... but my advise is concentrate on basic painting technigues like dry brushing, washes and filters. You can turn out an excellent model with these few skills alone .... and eventhough they´ll be used less as you devlop your bag of skills, you need to know when and how to use them.
integraguy95
Tennessee, United States
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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 12:04 AM UTC
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Hej Justin
Nice looking build.
What lets your model down, is how the winter camo is rubbed off. The chips/faded patches are too large, and unrealistic. Smaller patches "painted" on corners and raised details is an easier way to get a nicer effect.
It appears to me you have skipped the ground painting skills ... and went to extreme weathering techniques directly. Your building skills look good .... but my advise is concentrate on basic painting technigues like dry brushing, washes and filters. You can turn out an excellent model with these few skills alone .... and eventhough they´ll be used less as you devlop your bag of skills, you need to know when and how to use them.
Thanks for the advice Frank. Now that you mention it, I think back and I was probably a bit too excited to do the chipped paint look and using the oils that I committed the above. I'm a bit dissappointed tho, I thought this was certainly my best build yet.
My mother sent a Christmas package with Tamiya's 1/48th Tiger I Early and 1/35th Jagdpanzer IV L/70. First up will be the Jagdpanzer. Again, thanks for the advice Frank.
Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 03:57 AM UTC
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I'm a bit dissappointed tho, I thought this was certainly my best build yet.
Hi Justin. This is the hardest part of giving feedback ... the last thing I want is, to knock your enthusiasm for modelling. There are so many positive things in your model, please don’t focus entirely on the one negative point. I only had time to mention the chipping and nothing else.
I know exactly what you mean about getting excited and jumping a few steps .... the problem is .... you’ll have to live with this. When your skills develop, you’ll look back at this and want to re-paint it. I was there also
Maybe move on to your next kit and take the painting one step at a time. There will be loads of advice if you ask. When you feel a bit more comfortable ... come back to this again and it should be easy enough to touch up. This kit is by no means ruined …. Just needs some extra steps to fix it up.
In the meantime … here’s some inspiration …. Check out these 2 panzer IIs by James Tainton
DML Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. C
Cyber-hobby Pz.Kfz.II Ausf.F
You will notice, James changes his mind sometimes ... experiments ... things go wrong ... etc ... but because he has all the basic skills ... he can easily rework, change, hide and fix the things he is not happy with. Hopefully you will get some tips here and see that your model can easily be improved also.
integraguy95
Tennessee, United States
Joined: October 02, 2008
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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 03:12 PM UTC
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Quoted TextI'm a bit dissappointed tho, I thought this was certainly my best build yet.
Hi Justin. This is the hardest part of giving feedback ... the last thing I want is, to knock your enthusiasm for modelling. There are so many positive things in your model, please don’t focus entirely on the one negative point. I only had time to mention the chipping and nothing else.
I know exactly what you mean about getting excited and jumping a few steps .... the problem is .... you’ll have to live with this. When your skills develop, you’ll look back at this and want to re-paint it. I was there also
Maybe move on to your next kit and take the painting one step at a time. There will be loads of advice if you ask. When you feel a bit more comfortable ... come back to this again and it should be easy enough to touch up. This kit is by no means ruined …. Just needs some extra steps to fix it up.
In the meantime … here’s some inspiration …. Check out these 2 panzer IIs by James Tainton
DML Pz.Kpfw. II Ausf. C
Cyber-hobby Pz.Kfz.II Ausf.F
You will notice, James changes his mind sometimes ... experiments ... things go wrong ... etc ... but because he has all the basic skills ... he can easily rework, change, hide and fix the things he is not happy with. Hopefully you will get some tips here and see that your model can easily be improved also.
Those two Pz. II's are magnificent. I think from studying those guys, I need to lessen the amount of oil paints and also practice at the chipped paint look. I noticed in your first reply you mentioned "painted on" chipped paint. Can you teach me or explain some commonly used chipped paint tactics? Thanks Frank.
By the way, what should I keep doing?
jjumbo
British Columbia, Canada
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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 05:06 PM UTC
Hey Justin,
Nice job on your Pz.Kpfw. II.
I guess it was a far easier build than the Pz.Kpfw. IV you were thinking about !!
Cheers
jjumbo
Nice job on your Pz.Kpfw. II.
I guess it was a far easier build than the Pz.Kpfw. IV you were thinking about !!
Cheers
jjumbo
integraguy95
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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 07:54 PM UTC
Yes, I was suprised at the simplicity of this kit, even with the PE. I had high hopes for her, I see all the other amazing models such as Stampedes' Sherman and mine never seem to live up to expectations. Perhaps they should make a "positive reinforcement" forum for us new guys. HAHA
Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 11:31 PM UTC
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and mine never seem to live up to expectations.
Who´s expectations? You should only build for yourself .. so therefore its your own expectations ... nobody elses!. The models you admire, are not the first models produced by these guys ... they have started out like you and have put in the work and practise to get where they are today. But you gotta walk before you can run. I cant see how it is possible to master more extreme methods when the basics have not been even attempted.
Below is a link to some excellent weathering steps by MIG, including chipping.
Rarities World
You´ll get some ideas from this page, but don´t try to make them all in one model. Build up your skills one at a time per project. And always remember ... less is more.
integraguy95
Tennessee, United States
Joined: October 02, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 10:47 AM UTC
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Quoted Textand mine never seem to live up to expectations.
Who´s expectations? You should only build for yourself .. so therefore its your own expectations ... nobody elses!. The models you admire, are not the first models produced by these guys ... they have started out like you and have put in the work and practise to get where they are today. But you gotta walk before you can run. I cant see how it is possible to master more extreme methods when the basics have not been even attempted.
Below is a link to some excellent weathering steps by MIG, including chipping.
Rarities World
You´ll get some ideas from this page, but don´t try to make them all in one model. Build up your skills one at a time per project. And always remember ... less is more.
Thanks for the link Frank. I'm going to use this information and advice on my Tamiya Jagdpanzer I recieved for xmas from my mother. I am going to try to keep it simple and get back to the basics. Thanks!