Alan McNeilly takes a look at the .303 Vickers Machine Gun by Resicast in 1/35 scale.
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Resicast .303 Vickers MGc5flies
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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 04:55 AM UTC
youngc
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Posted: Sunday, December 14, 2008 - 11:29 PM UTC
Excellent review Alan. Lots of detailed information and clear photographs.
I would like to buy this kit, and I'm quite interested in the history of the guns themselves, especially interested in their service during the Malaya/Singapore campaign. They had a number of achievements which have gone relatively unrecognised, including being used to repel/pin down large numbers of Japanese troops while trying to cross the Johore Strait.
Another kit does exist, but it is 1:32 scale and doesn't look as detailed as Resicast's:
http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Army_Equipment.html
Thanks once again for the review,
Chas
I would like to buy this kit, and I'm quite interested in the history of the guns themselves, especially interested in their service during the Malaya/Singapore campaign. They had a number of achievements which have gone relatively unrecognised, including being used to repel/pin down large numbers of Japanese troops while trying to cross the Johore Strait.
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This is currently the only kit of its type that I know of, depicting this famous and widely used weapon.
Another kit does exist, but it is 1:32 scale and doesn't look as detailed as Resicast's:
http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Army_Equipment.html
Thanks once again for the review,
Chas
Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 05:04 AM UTC
Hi Chas,
Yes, there is a lot of potential with this one, it had a long history.
A picture paints a thousand words, I particularly like the last shot. Referenced from The Imperial War Museum - for reference only:
Al
Yes, there is a lot of potential with this one, it had a long history.
A picture paints a thousand words, I particularly like the last shot. Referenced from The Imperial War Museum - for reference only:
Al
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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 07:14 AM UTC
Interesting item! What's with the laced up gun barrel on the last picture?
Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 07:47 AM UTC
Hi Bajtur,
The Vickers MG was water cooled by about 7.5 imperial pints of water contained in the 'tube' around the barrel - (water jacket - these were both smooth and ribbed). The steam was fed back into a condenser can for re-use when it cooled. These weapons became very hot, very quickly and although I can find no specific reference to the canvas jacket so far, I would hazard a guess that it was to help prevent burns to the gunners/loaders hands if they touched the barrel by mistake.
If I'm wrong someone will point it out
Al
The Vickers MG was water cooled by about 7.5 imperial pints of water contained in the 'tube' around the barrel - (water jacket - these were both smooth and ribbed). The steam was fed back into a condenser can for re-use when it cooled. These weapons became very hot, very quickly and although I can find no specific reference to the canvas jacket so far, I would hazard a guess that it was to help prevent burns to the gunners/loaders hands if they touched the barrel by mistake.
If I'm wrong someone will point it out
Al
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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 08:56 AM UTC
Ah, interesting! Thanks for the insight Alan
Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 05:32 PM UTC
Your welcome.
Al
Al
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Posted: Monday, December 15, 2008 - 05:50 PM UTC
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Hi Bajtur,
The Vickers MG was water cooled by about 7.5 imperial pints of water contained in the 'tube' around the barrel - (water jacket - these were both smooth and ribbed). The steam was fed back into a condenser can for re-use when it cooled. These weapons became very hot, very quickly and although I can find no specific reference to the canvas jacket so far, I would hazard a guess that it was to help prevent burns to the gunners/loaders hands if they touched the barrel by mistake.
If I'm wrong someone will point it out
Al
That was always my understanding
Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 03:53 AM UTC
Hi Matthew,
Yes, I imagine if you had to unlock it from the cradle and bug out in a hurry, the natural way to lift it would be in the crook of your arm which might be a bit painful if it was hot lol, lol.
Al
Yes, I imagine if you had to unlock it from the cradle and bug out in a hurry, the natural way to lift it would be in the crook of your arm which might be a bit painful if it was hot lol, lol.
Al
Posted: Tuesday, December 16, 2008 - 07:26 AM UTC
Some additional pics I came across on the web. Good picture of the bulllet defelctor that got added in the 30s upgrade. Good pics of the ribbed and smooth water jacket.
Al
Al
Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 03:19 AM UTC
Hi Guys,
A few more for reference from IWM
Al
A few more for reference from IWM
Al
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Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 04:39 PM UTC
Great review, Al, and these extra photos are the icing on the cake. Thanks!
Posted: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 - 05:39 PM UTC
Hi James,
Thanks for putting it together for me. Glad you like the pics, lots of build options with this small kit as the Vickers was used over such a long period of time and by so many countries.
Cheers
Al
Thanks for putting it together for me. Glad you like the pics, lots of build options with this small kit as the Vickers was used over such a long period of time and by so many countries.
Cheers
Al
Posted: Friday, December 19, 2008 - 03:56 AM UTC
HI guys,
Just bumped this up again for those who may have missed it.
Al
Just bumped this up again for those who may have missed it.
Al
Posted: Saturday, December 20, 2008 - 10:23 PM UTC
Hio Guys,
Thanks to Hans and Chris over on ML I got directed to some good pics of the .303 wooden ammo box and metal liner for the gun ammo.
Al
Thanks to Hans and Chris over on ML I got directed to some good pics of the .303 wooden ammo box and metal liner for the gun ammo.
Al
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Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 12:27 AM UTC
good review and great reference shots.
The vickers gun was an excellent machine gun with its history dating back to WW1
and still would hold respect if used in present day in various support rolls.
Thanks Alan.
The vickers gun was an excellent machine gun with its history dating back to WW1
and still would hold respect if used in present day in various support rolls.
Thanks Alan.
Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 12:57 AM UTC
Hi Michael,
Thanks. There is a facinating story over here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_machine_gun#Use
scroll down and see note about the 100th Company of the Machine Gun Corps, as it was then, outlining an action at High Wood on the 24th Auguat 1916.
It's probably one of the best examples as to why the weapon remained in service for so long.
Al
Thanks. There is a facinating story over here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vickers_machine_gun#Use
scroll down and see note about the 100th Company of the Machine Gun Corps, as it was then, outlining an action at High Wood on the 24th Auguat 1916.
It's probably one of the best examples as to why the weapon remained in service for so long.
Al
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Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 01:36 AM UTC
Thanks Alan.
That was a good read.
Chas hit the nail on the head in his earlier post about the Johore strait because it was down to a handful of well trained vickers machine crews to stop/slow down the assault into Singapore.
A devestating weapon in an indirect fire roll.
I have this Resicast set
It is quite a comprehensive machine gun set and well worth the money .
That was a good read.
Chas hit the nail on the head in his earlier post about the Johore strait because it was down to a handful of well trained vickers machine crews to stop/slow down the assault into Singapore.
A devestating weapon in an indirect fire roll.
I have this Resicast set
It is quite a comprehensive machine gun set and well worth the money .
Posted: Sunday, December 21, 2008 - 04:05 AM UTC
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Thanks Alan.
That was a good read.
Chas hit the nail on the head in his earlier post about the Johore strait because it was down to a handful of well trained vickers machine crews to stop/slow down the assault into Singapore.
A devestating weapon in an indirect fire roll.
I have this Resicast set
It is quite a comprehensive machine gun set and well worth the money .
Hi Michael.
I'd agree, I already had one of these for infantry use but got a second for the Tamiya LDRG trucks I'm planning to build.
Al
Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 06:42 PM UTC
Hi Guys,
This is a very useful site if you are looking for box markings and lables:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/stephen.johnson/arms/
Al
This is a very useful site if you are looking for box markings and lables:
http://web.ukonline.co.uk/stephen.johnson/arms/
Al
youngc
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 06:54 PM UTC
Alan,
I'd like to say thanks for the pictures you sent me, and for your continued research making this thread a reference in itself!
Hi Michael, there's a really great report on this action in the book "Singapore Burning" by Colin Smith, beautifully told.
Chas
I'd like to say thanks for the pictures you sent me, and for your continued research making this thread a reference in itself!
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Chas hit the nail on the head in his earlier post about the Johore strait because it was down to a handful of well trained vickers machine crews to stop/slow down the assault into Singapore.
Hi Michael, there's a really great report on this action in the book "Singapore Burning" by Colin Smith, beautifully told.
Chas
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Posted: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 - 10:58 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Alan,
I'd like to say thanks for the pictures you sent me, and for your continued research making this thread a reference in itself!Quoted TextChas hit the nail on the head in his earlier post about the Johore strait because it was down to a handful of well trained vickers machine crews to stop/slow down the assault into Singapore.
Hi Michael, there's a really great report on this action in the book "Singapore Burning" by Colin Smith, beautifully told.
Chas
Hiya Chas,
Another good read is a book called
The Battle for Singapore by Peter Thompson .
It covers quite an extensive theatre of battle for the Australians defending the johore strait.
Cheers,
Michael
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Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 12:28 AM UTC
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Hiya Chas,
Another good read is a book called
The Battle for Singapore by Peter Thompson .
It covers quite an extensive theatre of battle for the Australians defending the johore strait.
Cheers,
Michael
Great, I'll try get hold of this one for sure.
Chas
Posted: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 - 01:56 AM UTC
Hi Chas,
Your welcome, as I say great potential with this weapon.
Michael,
Thanks for the additional; input.
Cheers
Al
Your welcome, as I say great potential with this weapon.
Michael,
Thanks for the additional; input.
Cheers
Al
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Posted: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 - 05:58 AM UTC
Darren's post about brewing tea in the Tankers review thread reminded me of something in Robert Graves WW1 memoir which I thought I'd post here. Graves said the British machine gunners used to fire off a couple of belts in the morning to heat the water in the cooling jackets which they then used to make tea.
True or false?
What would the tea have tasted like?
True or false?
What would the tea have tasted like?