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Dioramas: Water Effects
Water! A sometimes intimidating effect.
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Woodland Scenics "Realistic Water"
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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 11:26 AM UTC
I got a new Micro-Mark catalog in the mail today and while browsing thorugh it I saw this product for simulating water. I've never seen it before and was wondering if anyone has ever used it before? And if so what were the results?

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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 11:28 AM UTC
Its sort of a resinand you pour it to use it
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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 02:04 PM UTC
Check this thread
https://armorama.kitmaker.net/forums/12380&page=1
It will point you in the direction of other threads. Which will all gell together to recommend a water product
Potroast
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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 02:45 PM UTC
I ran a forum search prior to posting this and the "Realistic Water" product hadn't been mentioned before...only their granular "EZ Water" was mentioned. After I posted this I found some links here, here, and finally here that shows what can be done with the product. I'll just go ahead and order some and see how it does.

Thanks for the replies, though.

Greg B.
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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 02:54 PM UTC
Personally I do not like this product. Well let me rephrase it...it doesn't work the way I would like to. It is self-leveling which means that no matter what I do, it will try to level itself off. This is great for making a flat body of water like a quite pond but when it comes to making ripples and waves "Realistic Water" is a royal pain in the ars. I have spent countless hours trying to make waves for one of my projects. In the end I gave up and went with casting resin. Just my 2 cents...
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Posted: Monday, June 02, 2003 - 06:12 PM UTC
I have seen it before, but have not learned how to use it to create nice ripples and splash effects. Anyone have a "step by step" guide to creating these effects, similar to the waterfall shown in the link ads?

I personallay use cotton balls and Envirotex EZ Pour to create the looks I want.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 07:01 AM UTC
I've got an excellent article on making water, including ripples and splashes, but unfortunately it is protected by copyright.

I already requested the author for his permission to translate this Dutch article for use on our site.

As soon as he gives me his "Go", I'll let you know.
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 04:28 PM UTC
hi this is matt tomlin, i havnt used this particular woodland scenics water, which looks like it is real and would work out but however i have just completed a dio with a small stream using woodland scenics e-z water, its a totaly different substance to the other one coz you have to melt this plastic then pour it in , but however the negative side to this is that it doesnt even itself out, and it always always dries like its honey, it has a honey/toffy coulor to it and doesnt look good at all and is not like the whit colour on the pic of tthis other woodland scnices realistic water, but also if you cant get woodland scenics realistic water try going to your hardware store and buy fibreglass repair resin, which works really good as i just used it on my latest dio, but if dries like a dark brown colour, which can be good depending on you coz some rivers/streams are that muddy colour but it worked for me and looks dam fine and real

matt
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 04:42 PM UTC

Quoted Text

I have seen it before, but have not learned how to use it to create nice ripples and splash effects. Anyone have a "step by step" guide to creating these effects, similar to the waterfall shown in the link ads?

I personallay use cotton balls and Envirotex EZ Pour to create the looks I want.



I haven't tried it yet, but you are supposed to use their "Water Effects" product to create the ripples and waterfalls.

http://www.dxmarket.com/micromark/products/82621.html
MATTTOMLIN
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Posted: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 11:40 PM UTC
hey potroast slodder is right dont get woodland scenics water it is fake and and the same with woodlands scenics ez water i have used it too and it dries in secons so you cant mold it and it turns like honey colour it is just not worh it and is expensive dont get it

matt
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Posted: Saturday, February 21, 2004 - 02:32 PM UTC
I've tried the Ezy -water once without the discoloration. The secret is in the heating. There is a very small window of tolerance in the temperature. One or two degrees above the recommended melting temperatures will result in burning the mixture and getting a brownish discoloration. I assume the higher the temperature, the greater the discoloration.
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 02:47 AM UTC
Woodlands Scenics has a nice book that gives many step by step ideas. Now, most of their efforts are towards the HO model railroad set, but many techniques are worth the price of the book. Their information on how to use their Realistic Water and Water Effects is great.

By the way, just being the engineer that I am, I bought and tried many different artists pastes, gels and mesiums and can get similar effects. You want waves? Use a high solids gloss gel. You want seepage? Use a liquid gloss medium. No 2-part mixing, no smell, no meniscus, no evacuating your home from the smell, no fire hazard.

Sealhead
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 01:56 PM UTC
i used this and i like the outcome i got. it looks good but like marty said, it is not good for making ripples. if you are using it for a creek or river, this is probably not the product to use.
Florre
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Posted: Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 08:57 PM UTC
There is a book of "modelling masterclass", named "terrain modelling", which includes a chapter about water effects. The author also talks about this product, but I can't recall right now where he used it exactly for. Anyway, if you have the chance to buy this book, go for it. Definitely worth the money, and my terrain building skills have hugely improved since I got it.

Greets!
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2004 - 08:31 AM UTC
it's simple.don't waste your money!!!
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