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German 128 mm PAK ammo
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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 12:56 AM UTC
Hi guys and girls

I am in the process of finishing my Jagdtiger for a diorama for the Airbourne campaign here at Armorama.

I will show it being reloaded by the crew, while German Paras are providing close security.

I know the ammo for the 128mm PAK was stored in two pieces (shell and projectile) in the tank - at least for some of the ammo stock. Maybe there was also a ready stock with projectile and shell joined together.

To have my tank crew loading the ammo the right way I need to know the following:

Would the ammo likely be loaded in seperate projectile and shell or in one piece?

How was the projectile actually joined to the shell? Was the projectile screwed on the top of the shell? I assume it was joined before firing unlike some indirect artillery pieces.

How would the top of the shell look? Do I need to do any filling on the top of the shell if I leave the projectile of.

Thanks for any help in advance



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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 01:24 AM UTC
The ammo wasn't in 2 pcs. It was a single shell.
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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 02:10 AM UTC
hi jesper there are a few pictures of a jagdtiger being rearmed in the book combat history of german heavy anti tank unit 653 the shells casings are being loaded seperatley from the cartridge. the shell casings were also stored seperatley in racks in the jagdtigers. hope thats of some use
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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 02:14 AM UTC
Chris: the 12.8cm Flak ammo was sgl piece not the KwK 12.8 ammo which was in 2 pieces as evidenced by the racks inside the Jagtiger. My guess is that the projectile was rammed in first and then the cartridge was inserted afterwards.
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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 02:27 AM UTC
Thanks for the quick feed back, guys. It looks like my crew will be loading seperate shells.

Thanks
chefchris
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Posted: Friday, January 09, 2009 - 06:56 AM UTC
Oooooppps sorry about that -

So were the shells on the 17 cm Cricket also of this type?

I'll try to stick to things I know like cooking pizzas, making empanadas, salsa, stugs, shermans etc.....

Chris
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Posted: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 02:11 PM UTC
Does anyone produce a turned set of 12.8 cm shells for the Jagdtiger? I would rather use brass than resin. It's for the Great Wall 12.8 cm K44 L/55 Pak gun. The kit doesn't even come with plastic rounds!!
GaryGore
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Posted: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 02:28 PM UTC

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Does anyone produce a turned set of 12.8 cm shells for the Jagdtiger? I would rather use brass than resin. It's for the Great Wall 12.8 cm K44 L/55 Pak gun. The kit doesn't even come with plastic rounds!!



I think you can use the RB Model 12.8cm PaK 40 L/61 35P10 set, but you might want to wait for confirmation on that.

http://www.rbmodel.com/index.php?action=products&cat=c_bm&sub=35P
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Posted: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 02:41 PM UTC
I think that ammo set is for the Sturer Emil which is a different ammo than what I'm looking for. I just found what I want by Armorscale. It must be a new release because it's specifically for the KWK 44 Pak and so far Great Wall Hobbies has the only gun of this caliber on the market.
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Posted: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 - 03:08 PM UTC

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I think that ammo set is for the Sturer Emil which is a different ammo than what I'm looking for. I just found what I want by Armorscale. It must be a new release because it's specifically for the KWK 44 Pak and so far Great Wall Hobbies has the only gun of this caliber on the market.



It does look like it maybe what you are looking for.
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