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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 08:05 AM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, January 15, 2009 - 08:44 AM UTC
Chris-- nice work. Is this the Tamiya kit?
thanks
DJ
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2009 - 10:49 AM UTC
yes its the tamiya kit, with an added attena box and some re-taining hooks for the cables on the sides. The washes didnt turn out as well after the pigments went on but all in all I guess it turned out ok.
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2009 - 11:21 AM UTC
Looks good from here Chris although I don't know all that much about modern armor. I've always wondered, what's the purpose of the wrappings on the barrel? Are they there to reduce the heat signature from firing or for something else entirely?
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2009 - 11:27 AM UTC
great chieftan
the weathering looks superb i like the tracks
bill they are dust extruders to stop dust getting into the working parts
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Posted: Friday, January 16, 2009 - 09:57 PM UTC
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Looks good from here Chris although I don't know all that much about modern armor. I've always wondered, what's the purpose of the wrappings on the barrel? Are they there to reduce the heat signature from firing or for something else entirely?
the wrapping is called a thermal shroud. It's used to keep the temperature of the barrel under control and therefore also the shape of the barrel itself. Unwanted changes in temperature caused by things such as sunlight or cold weather can be reduced so the gun can keep firing accurately
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 08:44 AM UTC
On the workbench:
Dragon: Flammpanzerwagen
Tamiya: Challenger 1
Revell: Shelby Cobra
Academy: TBM-3 "USS Bunker Hill"
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 10:41 AM UTC
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 11:58 AM UTC
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bill they are dust extruders to stop dust getting into the working parts
Incorrect...see Mat's post.
By the way guys.....it is not Chieftan or Cheiftan......it is Chieftain.
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 12:40 PM UTC
Looks really good! Been thinking about doing one in the Berlin urban camouflage...
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 01:59 PM UTC
Thanks Mat and Jason, appreciate the answer to a curiosity question that's been hanging around in my mind for a while but never asked.

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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 07:57 PM UTC
Chris,
Nice model. There are a couple things you might want to consider for next time:
- You might want to watch your barrel assembly as this one isn't straight, it's cocked off to starbord a little. Getting the barrel right, along with it's inevitable seam, can be a pain, but it really makes the model come together.
- try to fill any seams. There are two noticeable ones under the front of the turret and another one around the periphery of the rear hull plate. Again, filling these can make a big improvement to the look of any model.
Just a couple tips for next time.
Paul
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Posted: Saturday, January 17, 2009 - 08:07 PM UTC
As a former crew man on one of these i can safely say it as brought back bad memories of working with them whilst looking at your model

Nice work, Never saw one as clean though.
On the work bench.
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 - 08:39 AM UTC
Looks neat.........good effort! Why didn't add a splash of black paint as well? The Main Engine (ME) and Generator Unit Engine (GUE) exhausts need to be black especially on the inside, the antennas need to be straight as it gives the impression it's going at warp factor 10 and believe me it didn't!!!
And I've just noticed that the turret is to short! The NBC Pack should be nearly touching the resilient rail, not your fault!
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 - 09:50 AM UTC
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Looks neat.........good effort! Why didn't add a splash of black paint as well? The Main Engine (ME) and Generator Unit Engine (GUE) exhausts need to be black especially on the inside, the antennas need to be straight as it gives the impression it's going at warp factor 10 and believe me it didn't!!!
I've got a film in which trials are shown between the Leopard 1 and the Chieftain. The Dutch army had to choose between them. Although the Chieftain had more firepower and armour, it's mobility was clearly less than the Leopard. Reliability was also a problem for the Chieftain, as well the fact that it needed much more maintenance. Not my personal opinion, but the one of the Dutch army at the time.
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 - 11:43 AM UTC
Thanks for all the feedback. And I know about the barrel, i have since fixed it. This build was just OOB, except the attena box which I probally shouldnt have added but oh well live and let learn I guess. Besides I was given this kit as a gift from a guy I work with for always helping him get caught up at work as a thank you. So i used it as a testing platfom for weathering.
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 - 12:03 PM UTC
I think you're OK with the radio box, just means yours has a Clansman radio setup. I did the same a looong time ago on one I built.
Jim
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Posted: Monday, January 19, 2009 - 07:55 PM UTC
Ya, but I think the Clansman system would have been mounted after the Chieftains were modified with the later style NBCW pack that covered the entire rear of the turret......not like the smaller one on the Tamiya kit.
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