I recently purchased and used Model Master Flat Lacquer for the first time on my campaign figures. After using it my figures shined more than ever. Did I do something wrong?, is there a technique I do not know about? I tryed a second coat, but alas to no avail.
Please help the figures are shining in the dark!
Thanks in advance
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Flat lacquer not Flat?
Bren
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Posted: Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 02:35 AM UTC
GunTruck
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Posted: Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 04:03 AM UTC
Bren - this can happen with MM Flat Lacquer isn't mixed completely before applying - especially if dispensed from a spray can.
I like to airbrush this stuff on, and will take a spray can and empty the contents into a 3oz. Badger airbrush bottle. Once done, I thin it 50% with Lacquer Thinner and mix it with a stirring stick (a stainless steel dental spatula) by hand before airbrushing.
Whenever I have gotten the "shiny dullcote" I backflush my airbrush, load in clean Lacquer Thinner, and gently mist the clean thinner over the area. I emphasize gently here - if you've never done this technique before - practice on a scrap piece of plastic. Going too heavy will mar your finish. However, when done correctly, it will help you even out the finish and set a good foundation for a subsequent dull coat later on. The thinner won't add a layer of paint to your model but will help evaporate any excess carrier applied that made the dull cote shiny in the first place.
Hope this help you out.
Gunnie
I like to airbrush this stuff on, and will take a spray can and empty the contents into a 3oz. Badger airbrush bottle. Once done, I thin it 50% with Lacquer Thinner and mix it with a stirring stick (a stainless steel dental spatula) by hand before airbrushing.
Whenever I have gotten the "shiny dullcote" I backflush my airbrush, load in clean Lacquer Thinner, and gently mist the clean thinner over the area. I emphasize gently here - if you've never done this technique before - practice on a scrap piece of plastic. Going too heavy will mar your finish. However, when done correctly, it will help you even out the finish and set a good foundation for a subsequent dull coat later on. The thinner won't add a layer of paint to your model but will help evaporate any excess carrier applied that made the dull cote shiny in the first place.
Hope this help you out.
Gunnie
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Posted: Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 05:33 AM UTC
I think guntruck hit the nail on the head here. I used to have the same problem with Humbrol and Revell flat varnish, areas showing as a gloss or semi gloss while other areas showing as perfectly matt. The advice I was given was stir the stuff twice as long as for normal paint. I followed this advice and have had no problems since.
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Posted: Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 08:39 AM UTC
Gunnie is absolutely right, but more than once I had bad experiences like yours even thinning and mixing properly the flat coat, specially with Vallejo... so I suggest to try always first on a crap piece of plastic and accelerating the drying time with an hair dryer...
Ciao
Ciao
Bren
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Posted: Saturday, June 07, 2003 - 07:40 PM UTC
Thanks guys, I'll try another coat that is better stirred. As for airbrushing, I find myself in need of an airbrush! :-)
Enjoy
Enjoy
Bren
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Posted: Sunday, June 15, 2003 - 12:59 AM UTC
I used a coat of old Humbrol that I had and it worked beautifully!