Scott Cameron provides an In-Box Review of Tamiya's 1/35 German Fuel Drum Set.
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Tamiya German Fuel Drum Setc5flies
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 09:47 AM UTC
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 10:06 AM UTC
No offence,but WHY discuss such an ancient kit.
c5flies
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 10:15 AM UTC
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No offence,but WHY discuss such an ancient kit.
1-It's still available
2-It's still useful
3-It hasn't been reviewed before
I can think of more reasons if needed
Tarok
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 10:16 AM UTC
Good to see one of the older Tamiya kits reviewed.
Nice review, I particularly enjoyed the brief history on the Jerrycan. I really never gave it's development much thought before, so have learnt something new today
Just one comment though, the "Gas" reference had me for a second, before I realised you were talking about "Fuel" or petrol, and not a vaporous substance I disagree that the absence of PE is a negative, when you take the age of the kit (1980's?) into account.
Overall good review though
Tom:
"Why review such an old kit?" Surely since the kit is still in circulation it deserves a review? Some of us are interested in reviews of the older kits. How about thanking Scott taking the time to write the review?
Rudi
Nice review, I particularly enjoyed the brief history on the Jerrycan. I really never gave it's development much thought before, so have learnt something new today
Just one comment though, the "Gas" reference had me for a second, before I realised you were talking about "Fuel" or petrol, and not a vaporous substance I disagree that the absence of PE is a negative, when you take the age of the kit (1980's?) into account.
Overall good review though
Tom:
"Why review such an old kit?" Surely since the kit is still in circulation it deserves a review? Some of us are interested in reviews of the older kits. How about thanking Scott taking the time to write the review?
Rudi
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 10:25 AM UTC
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Just one comment though, the "Gas" reference had me for a second, before I realised you were talking about "Fuel" or petrol, and not a vaporous substance
Thanks Rudi, it was an 'American' moment on my part :-)
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 12:54 PM UTC
Thanks for the comments, everyone.
Tom, it may be an old kit, but it is still a pretty good set of jerrycans and fuel drums. I agree with Rudi and James on your question. I also thought it would be a good thing to contribute to a great modeling site that I owe a lot of my building/finishing strategies to.
Rudi, I also found the history of the jerrycan quite interesting, especially how something so seemingly ordinary could have had so much development effort put into it. Here is a link that has some more interesting info if you like.
As for the PE, I was comparing it a little to the DML and Tasca offerings which both include it, so I thought I should have noted the lack of it.
Scott
Tom, it may be an old kit, but it is still a pretty good set of jerrycans and fuel drums. I agree with Rudi and James on your question. I also thought it would be a good thing to contribute to a great modeling site that I owe a lot of my building/finishing strategies to.
Rudi, I also found the history of the jerrycan quite interesting, especially how something so seemingly ordinary could have had so much development effort put into it. Here is a link that has some more interesting info if you like.
As for the PE, I was comparing it a little to the DML and Tasca offerings which both include it, so I thought I should have noted the lack of it.
Scott
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Posted: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 - 04:17 PM UTC
Those drums on the box look more like German drums than the ones I have. It's refreshing to see someone review one of the older kits, Many Thanks
Joe
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:09 AM UTC
While an ancient kit you can improve it quite easily with the two PE sets from Voyager currently available.
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=PE%20A160
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=PE%20A161
The result is fuel drums and jerry cans that are superior to the excellent Tasca ones. They're a $#%7ing pain in the #$% to build (the spout comes in 3 parts and requires a plastic neck), but the results are excellent.
As to the lettering, you'd need a microscope to read it, so that doesn't bother me on the cans. The Voyager ends for the drums will correct that problem (I believe Aber has a similar PE set out, but I've never seen anyone have it in-stock).
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=PE%20A160
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=PE%20A161
The result is fuel drums and jerry cans that are superior to the excellent Tasca ones. They're a $#%7ing pain in the #$% to build (the spout comes in 3 parts and requires a plastic neck), but the results are excellent.
As to the lettering, you'd need a microscope to read it, so that doesn't bother me on the cans. The Voyager ends for the drums will correct that problem (I believe Aber has a similar PE set out, but I've never seen anyone have it in-stock).
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Posted: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 - 10:25 AM UTC
I was about to say, the drums are hardly accurate, just generic drums. You need the PE end caps to make a true Wehrmacht drum. Or lots of patience and a set of PE letters (!).
Doesn't Italeri make a set of Jerrycans that has gotten good reviews? I heard that for the same price they are better than the Tamiya set.
Doesn't Italeri make a set of Jerrycans that has gotten good reviews? I heard that for the same price they are better than the Tamiya set.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 07:12 PM UTC
Here's the Aber set:
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=ABR-35A114
And some images of the drums, articles, etc:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/message/1185618810/link+and+pictures
http://www.luckymodel.com/scale.aspx?item_no=ABR-35A114
And some images of the drums, articles, etc:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/message/1185618810/link+and+pictures
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Posted: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 - 07:39 PM UTC
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No offence,but WHY discuss such an ancient kit.
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I disagree that the absence of PE is a negative, when you take the age of the kit (1980's?) into account.
For a kit that actually came out in 1995 , it's not bad.
It's Tamiya's original Fuel Drums and Jerry Cans set that came out in the 1970's that's truly awful.
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Doesn't Italeri make a set of Jerrycans that has gotten good reviews? I heard that for the same price they are better than the Tamiya set.
The Italeri set is older, circa 1970's, and is still good a good basic set.
You get some bits and pieces to make stowage racks but you don't get any fuel drums .
Cheers
jjumbo
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Posted: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 - 10:21 PM UTC
Hi
whilst it is, certainly in todays terms, an old kit I think it's important to draw modellers attention to these, if only to warn them off buying the older set which can still be seen doing the rounds on ebay and such like.
I have both the older set and the new set. I purchased the older set many years ago and when I returned to modelling recently I dug them out but gave up halfway through detailing them as I soon realised they were very poor representations. Please don't buy the old set they only have two handles instead of the distinctive three of the actual can, and the new set has corrected this.
The older set is distinguished by the fact you get buckets with it .
The new Tamiya set, as mentioned does not reproduce the distinctive centre wield seam which is achieved by PE inserts in the Tasca/Bego set and most of the Dragon ones included in their kits.
I wish I'd had known about the Voyager etc kits before assembling mine. I ended up buying some of the Tasca/Bego jerrycan sets as well, so I now have enough cans to fuel a Panzer Division !
If you want Fuel drums as well then you'll want the Tamiya kit but I'd always suggest investing in the PE to add that finishing detail. The distinctive centre wield in my opinion has to be included to make it a real jerrycan.
If you want to see more about the jerrycan and the variations follow this link to an amazingly detailed site.
Jerrycan - all you ever wanted to know and more...
Alan
whilst it is, certainly in todays terms, an old kit I think it's important to draw modellers attention to these, if only to warn them off buying the older set which can still be seen doing the rounds on ebay and such like.
I have both the older set and the new set. I purchased the older set many years ago and when I returned to modelling recently I dug them out but gave up halfway through detailing them as I soon realised they were very poor representations. Please don't buy the old set they only have two handles instead of the distinctive three of the actual can, and the new set has corrected this.
The older set is distinguished by the fact you get buckets with it .
The new Tamiya set, as mentioned does not reproduce the distinctive centre wield seam which is achieved by PE inserts in the Tasca/Bego set and most of the Dragon ones included in their kits.
I wish I'd had known about the Voyager etc kits before assembling mine. I ended up buying some of the Tasca/Bego jerrycan sets as well, so I now have enough cans to fuel a Panzer Division !
If you want Fuel drums as well then you'll want the Tamiya kit but I'd always suggest investing in the PE to add that finishing detail. The distinctive centre wield in my opinion has to be included to make it a real jerrycan.
If you want to see more about the jerrycan and the variations follow this link to an amazingly detailed site.
Jerrycan - all you ever wanted to know and more...
Alan
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Posted: Thursday, February 19, 2009 - 09:16 AM UTC
Hi
By the way if you are interested Hannants in the UK have the Tasco/Bego jerrycans on offer at half price whilst stocks last.. http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=TAS35002
Alan
By the way if you are interested Hannants in the UK have the Tasco/Bego jerrycans on offer at half price whilst stocks last.. http://www.hannants.co.uk/search/?FULL=TAS35002
Alan