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V-2 Transporter-Launcher (E-100)
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 07:57 PM UTC
He Guys

I just thought I would bring out one of my early DML E-100 conversions. I call it a V-2 Transporter-Launcher (E-100). I built this one back in 1998..

Comments Welcome
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Posted: Monday, February 23, 2009 - 08:36 PM UTC
That is amazing. My friend Eddy at IPMS Gent is building an E-100 that is almost identical!!!!! But he's using a 1/48 V2. And we thought we would be first with that conversion. Really cool model and certainly a source of inspiration. What did you use for the whole lifting arm construction?

Cheers,

John
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 02:38 AM UTC
HOLY ROCKET FUEL BATMAN!!!!!

That is cool man.

Raider the Red
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 02:48 AM UTC
For all you E-100 lovers out there; I've got the latest Panzer Tracts on the Maus and E-100 since last weekend and I have been measuring up a few things of the lower hull. Especially what the sides (skirts and their attachments) are concerned the Dragon's E-100 is way off and the Trumpeter one spot on. But I think the Trumpeter E-100's front bowplate is too long. Need to measure tonight.
Anyway, weighing all the errors in the Dragon one against the Trumpeter one made me decide I need another Trumpeter one for my project to build the E-100 according to the plans in PzTr (as far as my capabilities and spare parts allow).

Cheers,

John
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 04:06 AM UTC
great idea love the 1946 what ifs a crew figure would be great to give it scale thanks for sharing
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 04:31 AM UTC
This is very nice work Fred. Have you considered sending in a feature to Armorama?
John_O
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 04:41 AM UTC

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one of my early DML E-100 conversions
There's more?

John
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Posted: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 09:34 AM UTC

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one of my early DML E-100 conversions
There's more?

John



He John

I had five of them built when Trumpeter came out with their E-100. I have since scraped two in favor of the Trumpeter kit. I got my Panzer Tracts book on the E-100 last week. Have you seen Waldemar Trojca book on the German Secret Panzer Projects. It has some good scale drawings. It has a lot more drawings than the Pranzer Tracts book.
I well take some pictures of my other E’s and upload the later.

Wolf
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 04:25 PM UTC
holy cow it's the SCUD's father coming back for revenge! that's an amazing conversion, what's really frightning is if the war had've carried on how long do you think it would have been before the german designers would have gotten the idea for such a vehicle in their heads? cool vehicle anyhow thanxs for sharing. Ant
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Posted: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 - 05:22 PM UTC
SWEET very very Sweet
just love the V2 the Saturn V grandfather

Chris
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 08:44 PM UTC

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That is amazing. My friend Eddy at IPMS Gent is building an E-100 that is almost identical!!!!! But he's using a 1/48 V2. And we thought we would be first with that conversion. Really cool model and certainly a source of inspiration. What did you use for the whole lifting arm construction?

Cheers,

John



He John

I used the erector parts from and old Revell Nike Hercules I had laying around. It took first place in the What If Category at the IPMS Region 6 Convention, back in 1999.
I guess I need to paten it, just funning.

Wolf
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 08:49 PM UTC
Hi, Fred ! At you the present monster has turned out!!! It is good, that it did not exist during war
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Posted: Thursday, February 26, 2009 - 11:56 PM UTC

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I used the erector parts from and old Revell Nike Hercules I had laying around. It took first place in the What If Category at the IPMS Region 6 Convention, back in 1999.
I guess I need to paten it, just funning.
Wolf


Hehehe, I brought back a twenty year old Revell box of the Mace with launcher from my mom's place for similar reasons.

John
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 - 02:59 PM UTC
Hi Wolf;

I only recently saw this thread. I think that your idea for this transporter not only turned out great, but it's a logical idea. I mean, the whole idea of the Nashorn and Hummel was to provide a more-rapid way of getting those weapons into action, rather than towing them behind another vehicle and having to emplace them. Sure makes sense to me!

I am going to copy your basic idea in 1/16th scale, only I'll be using a King Tiger chassis as the basis, (I promise - I'll give you all the credit for coming up with the idea).

I've been trying to find a kit of the V-2 in 1/16th scale. I've seen pictures of one made by Imex, but I haven't been able to run one down yet. I did find an Estes flying model rocket in 1/19th scale, and that will have to do until I can eventually source an Imex kit.

Anyway, thank you for the great example of your creativity!

-Mike
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 - 07:37 PM UTC
Thanks Michael, but I think you will find the King Tiger will be too small as I did. I was going to use the King Tiger at first too. The weight of the V2 would have been too much for the for King Tiger to handle.
Build away

Wolf
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 - 08:14 PM UTC
Wow, thats a nice thing! Also great idea for a "what if"-scenario.
It looks like an WW2 SCUD-vehicle.

greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 - 09:04 PM UTC

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Thanks Michael, but I think you will find the King Tiger will be too small as I did. I was going to use the King Tiger at first too. The weight of the V2 would have been too much for the for King Tiger to handle.
Build away

Wolf


What about the Trumpeter Geschutzwagen Tiger fur 17 cm Kanone 72 (Sf), kit #00378? That thing is HUGE! I have one about half-way done and the hull is so long it nearly fits 3 Panzer Is end to end down the length. It's twice as long as a Tiger I. I know the extra roadwheels and torsion bars would have beefed up the suspension some because that is a pretty huge gun on it. Except for lots of pin marks to fill, it's a good kit with lots of detail, especially the engine and drive train. Most of the pin marks you wouldn't have to mess with because they are on parts I wouldn't think you'd use for that conversion.

Here's a picture of one assembled with the gun built as a separate assembly, a kit option. You can get a bit of a sense of the size. I've seen some good prices for this kit if you shop around a bit.

http://airlandseaweapons.devhub.com/blog/2009/08/31/geschutzwagen-tiger-fur-17cm-kanone21-cm-morser-1
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Posted: Friday, February 19, 2010 - 10:27 PM UTC

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What about the Trumpeter Geschutzwagen Tiger fur 17 cm Kanone 72 (Sf), kit #00378? That thing is HUGE! I have one about half-way done and the hull is so long it nearly fits 3 Panzer Is end to end down the length. It's tice as long as a Tiger I. I know the extra roadwheels and torsion bars would have beefed up the suspension some because that is a pretty huge gun on it. Except for lots of pin marks to fill, it's a good kit with lots of detail, especially the engine and drive train. Most of the pin marks wou wouldn't have to mess with because they are on parts I wouldn't think you'd use for that conversion.


Yes, my thoughts were evolving in that direction too! The Geschützwagen is even bigger than the E-100.

J
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Posted: Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 06:34 AM UTC
From what I've read on the V-2, the rocket itself didn't really weigh too much at all when it was being transported, which is why they dragged it around on the (rather flimsy-looking) 6-wheel Meillerwagen trailer. In fact, they were so lightweight before adding the fuel, (which they didn't do until they already had it erected), that they put a disc over the nose and ran guywires down to keep the wind from blowing it over! There's a good picture of this in the Osprey book on page 10.

Now, the physical size might be a bit overmuch for the King Tiger chassis (as opposed to the E-100), but the weight itself wouldn't have been a factor. Using the longer Geschutzwagen Tiger chassis is a great idea for this! Scratchbuilding one in 1/16 by combining two Tamiya kits would be the way to do it, I think.

Thanks again, though. GREAT subject for both the "Luift '46" as well as the "Parep Panzers" folks!
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