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Ultracast Tank Commander
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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 10:58 AM UTC
Alan McNeilly provides a review of Ultracast's Commonwealth tank commander figure.

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Posted: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 - 11:44 AM UTC
Hey Al,
Another great review of an Ultracast figure !!
I've built a couple of these guys already for a diorama and they went together perfectly.
Cheers

jjumbo
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Posted: Thursday, March 05, 2009 - 04:04 AM UTC
hi John,

Yes, this is my second one too The painted fellow I did a good while ago and probably needs touched up a bit, he had a few scuff marks while he's waiting for a home or should I say Humber Scout Car .

Al
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Posted: Friday, March 06, 2009 - 10:35 AM UTC
Hi Guys,

John aksed me about the pistol holster so I though I'd post this here too

The Canadians had 5 styles of pistol holster, that differed somewhat to the British version.

1. Holster for No 2 Mk I Revolver - the .38

2. Standard holsters of 2 slightly different types made for pistols and revolvers.

3. Holster for FN Inglis pistol and a definitive version of the Browning FN Inglis pistol holster.

Standard handguns were

1. 38 Pistol No 2 Mk I Revolver - 6 rds - AFV Crew

2. .38 Smith & Weston K38/200 Revolver - 6 rds - Offciers and Heavy Machine Crews

3. .45 M1911A1 Colt Automatic - 7rds - Canadian Paras

4. .38 Browning FN Inglis No 2 Mk I Automatic - 13rds - Officer and AFV Crews. It gradually replaced the issue Revolvers beginning around 1942.

The holster on the figure looks to be one of the standard (2) and I would assume is meant to contain a Revolver as he sports the necessary ammo pouch to go with it, therefore the No 2 Mk I Revolver would be my guess, even though the butt is a bit square it has a similar squarish look to to the revolver.

So 2 and 1 would be the match here I believe. However, given the time period it could be the .38 Browning as the standrd holster could take either pistol or automatic.

Info from the Canadian Soldier page 117

Cheers

Al
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 08:51 AM UTC

Quoted Text

Hi Guys,

John aksed me about the pistol holster so I though I'd post this here too

The Canadians had 5 styles of pistol holster, that differed somewhat to the British version.

1. Holster for No 2 Mk I Revolver - the .38

2. Standard holsters of 2 slightly different types made for pistols and revolvers.

3. Holster for FN Inglis pistol and a definitive version of the Browning FN Inglis pistol holster.

Standard handguns were

1. 38 Pistol No 2 Mk I Revolver - 6 rds - AFV Crew

2. .38 Smith & Weston K38/200 Revolver - 6 rds - Offciers and Heavy Machine Crews

3. .45 M1911A1 Colt Automatic - 7rds - Canadian Paras

4. .38 Browning FN Inglis No 2 Mk I Automatic - 13rds - Officer and AFV Crews. It gradually replaced the issue Revolvers beginning around 1942.

The holster on the figure looks to be one of the standard (2) and I would assume is meant to contain a Revolver as he sports the necessary ammo pouch to go with it, therefore the No 2 Mk I Revolver would be my guess, even though the butt is a bit square it has a similar squarish look to to the revolver.

So 2 and 1 would be the match here I believe. However, given the time period it could be the .38 Browning as the standrd holster could take either pistol or automatic.

Info from the Canadian Soldier page 117

Cheers

Al



Al,
MOre likely to be equipped with the Tanker's enfield pistol.
Matt
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 09:06 AM UTC
Hi Matt,

Yes, quite possible, and my first thoughts, although by 1942 the Canadians were starting to be equipted with the .38 Browning. The holster would have held either automatic or pistol and an Officer might well have had an automatic. There was a certain amount of personal choice I believe, John's Dad had a variety of handguns.

Thanks for the pic.

Al

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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:28 AM UTC

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Hi Matt,

Yes, quite possible, and my first thoughts, although by 1942 the Canadians were starting to be equipted with the .38 Browning. The holster would have held either automatic or pistol and an Officer might well have had an automatic. There was a certain amount of personal choice I believe, John's Dad had a variety of handguns.

Thanks for the pic.

Al






Hi Al,
The Browning Pistol won't fit in the closed type 37 pattern holster (as in the pic), it will though fit in the open tanker's Holster and ofcourse the browning holster.
Its really down to what the Armourer issued you and not really Personal choice.

I will also state that because the Revolver pistols were although Double action , they had no safety so were only ever loaded with five rds on an empty chamber (which is an old Cowboy trick).

Pistols were still well in use by 1945 and have been used up till 1970s, then replaced by the HyPower.
Matt
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Posted: Monday, March 09, 2009 - 11:57 AM UTC
Hi Matt,

Take you word for it but according to The Canadian Soldier 1944 - 45 page 117 the standard holster could take either, There were also 2 specific holsters designed for the pistol as well.

The Canadian holsters are different in shape to the standard 37 pattern British one.

As regards choice, I've read various accounts of officers carrying their prefered weapon and I've known soldiers to arm themselves in similar ways when in the field.

Data would also suggest that by late 1942 revolvers were being replaced, that doesn't mean they all got replaced I'm simply passing on the data I have. If your doing a specific figure then as always you reference pictures are your best guide.

|f you read my original post again you will see my thoughts were for a standard holster (2) and a .38 pistol (1).

What more can I say.

Al

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