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Source for Celluclay (or similar) in the U.S
GALILEO1
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:14 AM UTC
Hello,

I was wondering where I may be able to buy celluclay in the U.S. Would Home Depot have it?

Also, is celluclay the best to use for groundwork or is there something better? (never used celluclay so I was wondering)

Thanks!

Rob
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:33 AM UTC

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I was wondering where I may be able to buy celluclay in the U.S. Would Home Depot have it?



I've found it at Michael's, but I'm not sure about Home Depot.


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Also, is celluclay the best to use for groundwork or is there something better? (never used celluclay so I was wondering)



I don't think it is the best option, but it's the only one for me. Celluclay cracks and shrinks quite a bit, and can pull up from the edges of the base. I have heard that Sculptamold doesn't do any of this,but haven't been able to find it anywhere.

I hope this helps...
Samuel
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:43 AM UTC
Thanks Samuel!

I guess I should be looking for something else then. How about grout? I purchased one of those already mixed containers (by Dap, I think) for a tile work I had to do and it look like it would stick to anything. Any thoughts?

Thanks again,

Rob
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 02:57 AM UTC
I've used Celluclay for decades without problems.

To reduce shrinkage, simply use as little water as possible, add some white glue and drill some 1/8 inch holes in any wooden base. Use styrofoam to build uo your contours to keep the Celluclay layer as thin as possible: less than a half inch. Add earth colored acryylic paint to the mix to reruce painting afterwards. Test it on a base as a trial. Mine dries overnight under a regular desk lamp.

Given the cost of a pound of Celluclay, which could last you a year or more depending on your projects, give it a try.

I wouldn't bother with Home Depot since tis is a craft item. Go to Michaels, AC Moore or a train oriented hobby shop.
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 03:13 AM UTC
If you want Celluclay, I would seconds Al's suggestion and go to Micheals or AC Moore or an RR shop; but for my a product called Sculpt-a-Mold is far superior and also available at these locations
warlock109
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 03:44 AM UTC
You can get celluclay plain or with plaster in it. The plaster helps it set up faster, and I've had no problems with it cracking. Also add a little white glue to the mix and it will stick to the base better. I've used this method for years over wood and foam with no problems.

Jerry
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 04:36 AM UTC
i have used cella-clay on my last 2 projects and it is the worst stuff you can ever use. it shrinks terribly even with glue, and pulls up your styrophome contours. (base). I have used sculp-t-mold or Dap clay with no problems.
cheers!
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 03:51 PM UTC
I have to agree that sculptamold is better than celluclay--just mix in some elmer's glue with the water when mixing it up. I got mine at the local hobby shop, but I believe I've seen it at Hobby Lobby as well. My experience is that most hobby stores that sell lots of model RR stuff typically carry sculptamold. I've found that It doesn't shrink as much as celluclay when it dries. Another product I've heard good things about that I have found at Lowe's but have yet to try is Durham's Water Putty.
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Posted: Friday, March 27, 2009 - 04:34 PM UTC
Whether purchasing it from Michael's or Hobby Lobby, don't forget both stores have a 40% off coupon almost every other week. The current Michael's coupon runs from 29 March through 4 april. I used to use Celluclay as kid quite a bit because that's what Shep Paine recommended. I never had cracking problems with it, although at some point I moved on to Durham's rock hard putty.
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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 08:01 AM UTC
Any HobbyTown USA store should carry BOTH!
For a store near you, > http://www.hobbytown.com/

As has been noted, Hobby Lobby and Michaels should carry both as well, if not, one of the items.

Try Laticrete, it is rough Tile Grout and dries rock hard. It comes in various shades as well as White. Find it at Lowes, Home Depot, tile supply or any good home hardware store > http://www.laticrete.com/Architects/Products/tabid/1702/Default.aspx

Keith.
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Posted: Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 03:33 AM UTC
Celluclay is more of a "paper" product than a "clay" one. That said, the less liquid you add to it, the less shrinkage you get. I would think both Michaels and Hobby Lobby would carry it. I can't remember where I bought mine. It was over ten years ago, and I still have over half a pack left.

Worst come to worst, you can use this link to find an online supplier.

http://www.google.com/products?hl=en&safe=off&num=100&newwindow=1&q=celluclay&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wf

Good Hunting,
Mark Lopiccola
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Posted: Sunday, April 05, 2009 - 12:37 PM UTC
Rob,

The ideas presented all work well and are tested. I didn't think of drilling holes in the base. No wonder i went thru a few before I used 3/4 birch plywwod, which won't worp for nothin. If you plan on using the celluclay for the road, etc, after adding the white glue let it set up for a time and then run the road wheels or tracks. Looks great for a dried road be that shows signs of recent rain activity, etc. I still have a bag of Celluclay from the 80's and it doens't take much if you build up like Al LaFleche mentioned. Google it and I'll bet you can order quickly, but if you're in a pinch and there isn't a craft or other store around you can shred your own thru the shredder and add powder glue or liquid glue. Time consuming, so paint the models while your order arrives. I know this sounds crazy, but Celluclay is superfine shredded paper.

Best of luck Rob, Ski.
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