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Dioramas: Making Bases
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jimz66
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2009 - 01:25 PM UTC
Celluclay, can you use it to sculpt realistic scenery and terrain? Bought some today, but never had a chance to use it.
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2009 - 04:06 PM UTC
Jim, you've seen my stuff and Don J's. We both use Celluclay for all my figures and vignettes groundwork. The trick is to build up the major contours with styrofoam and use a thin coat of Celluclay with minimal water, a big dollop of white glue and some texturing material. Adding earth tone acrylic paint reduces the effort of painting afterwards.
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Posted: Friday, April 03, 2009 - 11:18 PM UTC
Al that is good to know, however what glue do you use to attach the Styrofoam to your bases? I also at this point don't intend to do anything fancy just to use a wood base and spread a thin layer to be able to put a tank on the base and keep it in place. Nothing major as this is a very new concept for me. Yesterday afternoon I went to Michael's in Waterbury and got about seven small wooden bases for this purpose. For the first few I do it will be a very simple looking idea that I will build upon much later. just something to secure the vehicle to the base to protect it while it is being judged.

That's all for now. See you soon. Thanks again for helping me track that stuff down. Sorry I couldn't make the meeting this week.

Cheers Jim
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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 01:33 AM UTC
Seal your base, seal your base, seal your base...
If you put Celluclay on an unsealed wood base it will soak up the water and warp like billy be damned. Trust me. Celluclay is what is use.
I have had decent luck gluing the stryo down with Elmer's. It just takes a while to cure. The Celluclay you put over it will hold everything in place anyway.

Shaun

/Did I mention you need to seal your base?

sgtreef
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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 02:04 AM UTC
As I am quite new to Bases,but I have used Celluclay over Cork and have had good luck no warping as two months old.
I also have not added no extra Glue to mixture either.
But do use the brown one I bought the white one as they did not have the brown one in small size,much easier to blend but white works out pretty good.

I have also tried this right here with pretty good results.

http://www.primitiveoriginals.com/daspronmodcl.html
Bought at local Micheal's with 40 % off coupon.

Cheers
AJLaFleche
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Posted: Saturday, April 04, 2009 - 08:33 AM UTC
Jim, I don't seal the bases, I just stain them and drill 1/8 inch holes (learned that form Don). Again, minimal water. The Celluclay should be a thick slurry like very thick oatmeal. I haven't had warping problems in years, like since the 70's. I think warpage happens when people use too much water. The wood absorbs some but as the water evaporates, the volume reduces causing a pulling action. Keep the layer of Celluclay a half inch or less. The mixture is so thick and dry when I put it on, it dries overnight completely under a desk lamp in my basement.

I glue the styrofoam with regular Elmers or the CVS equivalent. Supergules may react withteh styrofoam.

Here's a tutorial I did a couple years ago.
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