Hello
I want to build a M113 conversion know as the M163 Vulcan as used in Vietnam.
Can I use the Italeri M163 A1 kit for this or would it need converting or is the a better version that I could use.
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Posted: Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 09:09 PM UTC
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Posted: Thursday, April 09, 2009 - 09:55 PM UTC
Shaun Academy do the kit used in Vietnam i did have but i traded it in for a Bravo 6 figure
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Posted: Friday, April 10, 2009 - 04:22 AM UTC
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Posted: Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:10 AM UTC
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Hello
I want to build a M113 conversion know as the M163 Vulcan as used in Vietnam.
Can I use the Italeri M163 A1 kit for this or would it need converting or is the a better version that I could use.
The Italeri kit has unusual road wheels with a smaller stamped "doughnut" shape surrounding the hub and significantly larger rim fasteners. These wheels do appear in some photos from the 1980's, sometimes alongside the regular wheels. I don't know if this was a change made by FMC or if these are substitute parts from another (possibly European) manufacturer. I have never seen wheels like those on a 1960's vehicle, so go with the Academy kit.
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Posted: Friday, April 10, 2009 - 08:29 AM UTC
Hi
Thanks for the help guy's.
Knew some1 on here would be able to help.
Thanks for the help guy's.
Knew some1 on here would be able to help.
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Posted: Friday, April 10, 2009 - 09:17 AM UTC
Hi Shaun,
I was trying to put together an Italeri M-163 before I gave up in frustration. All Italeri kits I know require some work, but they turn out okay. Some are even little gems. Not this one! The amount of stupid errors, misfitting parts and inaccuracies are endless. The building instructions are less than helpful, with "These are the parts, put them together somehow, we don't care" attitude. The lack of instructions for the turret, with mismatching turret parts simply snapped my nerves. The tracks are also rubbish, they have huge casting holes in each track, although they are link and length type. Finally, the versions you can build is either a 1987 US Army in Germany vehicle or a 1991 Saudi vehicle, no Vietnam.
If Academy kit is better, go for it. As far as I can see, it was definitely Vietnam era.
I was trying to put together an Italeri M-163 before I gave up in frustration. All Italeri kits I know require some work, but they turn out okay. Some are even little gems. Not this one! The amount of stupid errors, misfitting parts and inaccuracies are endless. The building instructions are less than helpful, with "These are the parts, put them together somehow, we don't care" attitude. The lack of instructions for the turret, with mismatching turret parts simply snapped my nerves. The tracks are also rubbish, they have huge casting holes in each track, although they are link and length type. Finally, the versions you can build is either a 1987 US Army in Germany vehicle or a 1991 Saudi vehicle, no Vietnam.
If Academy kit is better, go for it. As far as I can see, it was definitely Vietnam era.
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 07:29 AM UTC
Hi Shaun !
Really buy better Academy kit.
http://picasaweb.google.pl/zippo132/M163VulcanVietnam?feat=directlink
Regards
Really buy better Academy kit.
http://picasaweb.google.pl/zippo132/M163VulcanVietnam?feat=directlink
Regards
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 10:18 AM UTC
Hi Jerzy
Yeh I'm looking out for the Acadamy 1 at the moment.
Some nice pic's on your link, especially like the 1 with the guy's sitting on chairs at the back of the M163 looks like there enjoying the ride.
Yeh I'm looking out for the Acadamy 1 at the moment.
Some nice pic's on your link, especially like the 1 with the guy's sitting on chairs at the back of the M163 looks like there enjoying the ride.
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Posted: Monday, May 18, 2009 - 10:41 AM UTC
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Hi Jerzy
Yeh I'm looking out for the Acadamy 1 at the moment.
Some nice pic's on your link, especially like the 1 with the guy's sitting on chairs at the back of the M163 looks like there enjoying the ride.
Funny you should say that Shaun that was standerd I have some photos somewhere of the crew riding on the back with two seats bolted to the back of the hull