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REMEARMR
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:45 PM UTC
During WW2 I know alot of countries donated military equipment to the Russians. Does anybody know any of the armour that was donated? And if so did these recieve new paint or did they just have Russian markings painted on?
Many Thanks
Robbo
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 06:58 PM UTC
Remearmr

At least they got a lot of Shermans and white scout cars. From what I have seen on several pictures they repainted some with a white wash type of paint and of course they got russian markings. A lot of the tanks they got were never overpainted just the normal olive drab and only markings were applied together with some fancy but unreadable (if you can`t speak it) russian text on the side of it.. That`s all my knowledge about this
I believe they also goy some christy tanks as they copied the running gear directly from the christy for their T34

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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 07:22 PM UTC
I f i remember well

they also receive some churchill and matilda too...

Sarge59
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 07:29 PM UTC
have a look there


http://www.wwiivehicles.com/html/ussr/index.htm

on the right you have the built russian tanks and after that the "Foreign Built Vehicles"
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 09:45 PM UTC
The Brits sent Valentines,universal carriers,churchills and loads of trucks. The americans sent almost everything,Stuarts,shermans and even more trucks. It was called lend-lease. Not something which is too-well documented. There were some aircraft sent as well...what they were I don't know...Jim
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 09:48 PM UTC
hi there are two very good books on the subject on is russian and the other is polish , go to armybook .com and do a search cheers ian
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 11:44 PM UTC
Don't forget the M3 Lee, or the "coffin for 7 brothers".
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Posted: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 - 11:57 PM UTC
I think I found what you are after...
Supplied to Russia via Lend Lease:
American vehicles
M3/M3A1 Stuart
M3 Lee
M4A2 Sherman
M3A1 Scout car
M3
M3A1
M5
M7
M10 Wolverine
M18 Hellcat
M24 Chaffee
M26 Pershing
T-48 Half-track

British vehicles
Churchill Mk. III/IV (6-Pounder)
Matilda Mk. II
Tetrarch
Universal Carrier
Valentine Mk. III/IV/IX


Canadian vehicles
Universal Carrier
Valentine Mk. IX/XI


Type Number
Churchill (All armed with 6-pounder gun) 301
Cromwell 6
M10 Wolverine TD 52
M15A1 MGMC 100
M17 MGMC 1.000
M18 Hellcat TD 5
M24 Chaffee 2
M26 Pershing 1
M3 Lee/Grant ("Coffin for 7 brothers") 1.386
M31 ARV (M3 Medium tank chassis) 115
M3A1 "Stuart" light tank 1.676
M4 Sherman (75mm / 76mm) 2.007 / 2.095
M5 Light tank 5
Matilda Mk. II 1.084
T-48 (SU-57) Tank destroyer 650
Tetrarch 20
Valentine Bridgelayer 25
Valentine Mk. III/IV/IX/XI 2.394 (British) 1.388 (Canadian)

The link is below.




http://www.skalman.nu/worldwar2/su-lendlease.htm

Shaun
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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:20 AM UTC
And, if you'd like to model some of the vehicles listed, go to
www.hobbyterra.com/scales.asp?item=35
for two decal sheets of markings for L-L armor (and a couple of sheets for Beutepanzer, as well).
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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:29 AM UTC
Here is a great resourse site with descent info on the numbers of and various vehicles sent as aid to the Russian army: Lend Lease Aid
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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 12:59 AM UTC

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There were some aircraft sent as well...what they were I don't know...



One of them probably was the Airacobra - not sure though.
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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 06:10 AM UTC
I know the P-39 was sent in large numbers, the majority of US production anyhow. The russkies loved it as a ground attack aircraft.

I think they may have gotten some P-40's as well, I am not sure.

and they "borrowed" some B-29's near the end of the war.

As for the christie suspension, the russians actually bought the right to produce it in the form of some tank I do not remember, probably the BT-2 or something. Anyhow, the US Army turned Christie down, so he sold it to them. Then the russians produced the T-34 out of it. Vioala!
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Posted: Thursday, June 19, 2003 - 07:12 AM UTC
Thanks guys, these answers are so much more than I had hoped for. However now I am faced with an even bigger problem,.... which vehicle do I pick for my dio to compliment the idea I have.
Cheers
Robbo :-)
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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:08 AM UTC
So the next topic should be:
which lend-leave vehicle should be on my russian steppes dio?
My answer is: A Sherman painted weathered white with large red stars, 12.7 Dshk on turret & somthing like:
Za Rodiniu!
(For country!)
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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:22 AM UTC
they also got hurricanes and aircorbra's dont know about spitfires or dc-47's but they did produce a plane almost identical to it
Fredzerat
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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:50 AM UTC
The LI-2 is a copy of DC-3 with a soviet turret mouted on the back
Fredzerat
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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2003 - 09:55 AM UTC
remearmr shoud be advice that for lend-lease tanks, soviets used to draw large texts or red stars to prevent miss-identification...
SOmething they not yet called friendly fire...
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Posted: Monday, June 30, 2003 - 02:58 PM UTC
Some of the airraft were P-39 Aircobra, P-63 King Cobra (5,000?) , A-20 W/4 20mm cannon nose.
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