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T-26E3 Pershing
sniper34
Joined: June 02, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 09:54 AM UTC
I was interested in purchasing the Dragon 6032 kit of the T-26 Pershing. I also see that Tamiya has an M26 Pershing. Are they the same vehicles? Which kit is better? I can get the Dragon kit for 15.99 and the Tamiya is onsiderably more. Being a cheapy at heart I was Going to get the Dragon kit. But if the Tamiya is much better I will reconsider. Your opinions are, as always, important and valued by me. TIA-C.
calvin_ng
Joined: June 23, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 12:11 PM UTC
i heard the tamiya kit is better but i could be wrong, but if your a experienced modeler which you probably are, and you are cheap 
then the dragon one could be made great with TLC 
then the dragon one could be made great with TLC 
sgtsauer
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 01:27 PM UTC
I can't speak of the Dragon Pershing but I have built the Tamiya Pershing. The Tamiya Pershing was a fabulous kit and went together flawlessly. I can't say a negative thing about it.
Completed Tamiya Pershing
Completed Tamiya Pershing
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 01:32 PM UTC
Do you like a challenge? THe DML kit is a fantastic Kit with individual links and stunning levels of detail correct for a WW2 Zebra Mission E3. The tamiya kit is a bit of a mishmash of WW2 and Post WW2 details but is also a stunning kit.
I would sy the buildability of the Tamiya one is far superior to the DML one but it is not far superior to the DML one in Detail. Each has little errors but if there is a bicg difference in price I'd go for the cheap example.
I have built both and have to say building the DML one is a chore compared to Tamiyas but the end results are superb in both kits.
I'm pretty sure I saw that the Pershing is going to be an Orange Box release shortly but can't remember where I saw that.
You will be happy with either but my personal preference is the DML one (Just make sure it is the T26E3 and not the later M26A1.
Cheers
Al
Al
I would sy the buildability of the Tamiya one is far superior to the DML one but it is not far superior to the DML one in Detail. Each has little errors but if there is a bicg difference in price I'd go for the cheap example.
I have built both and have to say building the DML one is a chore compared to Tamiyas but the end results are superb in both kits.
I'm pretty sure I saw that the Pershing is going to be an Orange Box release shortly but can't remember where I saw that.
You will be happy with either but my personal preference is the DML one (Just make sure it is the T26E3 and not the later M26A1.
Cheers
Al
Al
Belt_Fed
Joined: February 02, 2008
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 02:17 PM UTC
I built the Tamiya kit. Great kit. Great kit.
Dangeroo
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 09:50 PM UTC
I can second Al Bowies comments. Built both, DML's being the harder to build. If you want it to be on rough ground tamyia's has a movable suspension which makes it easier. If you don't like single link tracks you should go for Tamiya (although DML's aren't that hard to build). If these concerns don't matter, go for the cheaper one!
Cheers
Stef
Cheers
Stef
ppawlak1
Joined: March 14, 2006
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Posted: Tuesday, April 14, 2009 - 10:20 PM UTC
NIce Thread !
Which kit would give the best results for the 'Machines' at Remagen ?
Cheers
Paul
Which kit would give the best results for the 'Machines' at Remagen ?
Cheers
Paul
HuangHe
Joined: March 05, 2008
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 12:29 AM UTC
It's my DML T-26E3.
ALBOWIE
Joined: February 28, 2006
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 12:46 AM UTC
Quoted Text
NIce Thread !
Which kit would give the best results for the 'Machines' at Remagen ?
Cheers
Paul
The DML kit has markings for a 14th TB Pershing which was the Regt that had them at remagen. The Tamiya kit is more of a Post War version probably as a esult of trying to offer WW2 and Korean options. The DML one is truer to WW2 Zebra Mission Vehicles than Tamiyas.
Cheers
Al
Hisham
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 02:09 AM UTC
If you're interested.. HobbyBoss will be releasing one soon with a full engine.
http://www.hobbyboss.com/82424.htm
Hisham
http://www.hobbyboss.com/82424.htm
Hisham
Damraska
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 04:24 AM UTC
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The DML one is truer to WW2 Zebra Mission Vehicles than Tamiyas.
Hi Al,
I am pretty far into a Tamiya M26 intended to represent a Zebra Mission vehicle. I am proceeding with care and have excellent references, including the Hunnicutt book, but there's always the danger of missing something. Do you know of any place that lists the modifications required to make the Tamiya kit a true T26E3?
Thanks,
-Doug
sniper34
Joined: June 02, 2008
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 04:24 AM UTC
Once again you guys are great with info. I think the fact that this site reaches the whole world, is fantastic. All your input is greatly appreciated. ( Again, being a cheapy, I'll go with the DML T-26! ) 
210cav
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 05:08 AM UTC
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I can't speak of the Dragon Pershing but I have built the Tamiya Pershing. The Tamiya Pershing was a fabulous kit and went together flawlessly. I can't say a negative thing about it.
Completed Tamiya Pershing
Brent-- could not agree with you more. Tamiya is a superb kit. Your work is outstanding.
DJ
thebear
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 05:34 AM UTC
I've got nothing but great things to say about the Tamiya kit ..It was one of my favorite builds of all times ...
Rick
Rick
GSPatton
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 06:08 AM UTC
The T26E3 is the pre-production title for the M26 Pershing. The Dragon kit is very good. The Tamiya is also very good and allows you to make the suspension "move" over uneven surfaces. If you are building the M26 to sit on a flat surface - go with the Dragon. Before building I would acquire as many detail photos as possible.
The WWII Pershing does not have turnbuckles connecting the fenders to the hull and the infantry phone is located on the fender not the rear hull. These additions are Korean War vintage. On the Tamiya kit there is a mounting hole and notch that needs to be filled in keeping with a WWII Pershing.
Have fun with either kit you go with -
The WWII Pershing does not have turnbuckles connecting the fenders to the hull and the infantry phone is located on the fender not the rear hull. These additions are Korean War vintage. On the Tamiya kit there is a mounting hole and notch that needs to be filled in keeping with a WWII Pershing.
Have fun with either kit you go with -
calvin_ng
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 07:50 AM UTC
or you can combine both to make a pershing with the movable suspension from tamiya and the good detail from dragon 
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 04:40 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted TextThe DML one is truer to WW2 Zebra Mission Vehicles than Tamiyas.
Hi Al,
I am pretty far into a Tamiya M26 intended to represent a Zebra Mission vehicle. I am proceeding with care and have excellent references, including the Hunnicutt book, but there's always the danger of missing something. Do you know of any place that lists the modifications required to make the Tamiya kit a true T26E3?
Thanks,
-Doug
Drop me your email address for a list of things wrong. A good friend just wrote a tips list for the Tamiya one.
Cheers
Al
HeavyArty
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 06:50 PM UTC
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or you can combine both to make a pershing with the movable suspension from tamiya and the good detail from dragon
NO, due to the way the parts are laid out, the two hulls are not interchangeable and you can't swap suspension pieces between them.
ALBOWIE
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Posted: Wednesday, April 15, 2009 - 11:46 PM UTC
Of course when it comes to decisions there is always the late inclusion to throw you:
Can't wait for this one:
http://www.cyber-hobby.com/html/orange_box.htm
Cheers
Al
Can't wait for this one:
http://www.cyber-hobby.com/html/orange_box.htm
Cheers
Al
ltwilly
Joined: March 16, 2007
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Posted: Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 01:02 AM UTC
I have both DML and Tamiya kits. I feel that DML Pershing is a little too fat, and have oversized muzzle brake, the angle of front upper and lower armor are not much the real tanks.
Damraska
Joined: October 06, 2006
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Posted: Thursday, April 16, 2009 - 07:15 AM UTC
Of course. I finish building a set of AFV Club T84E1 tracks and here comes some DS T80E1s that would have saved me about 12 hours of work. Lovely.
For those with an Italeri M47 Patton in the stash, the T80E1s in this kit should come in very handy.
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Drop me your email address for a list of things wrong. A good friend just wrote a tips list for the Tamiya one.
Thank you very much for the help, Al. I sincerely and greatly appreciate it.
-Doug
Murdock
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Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 08:22 AM UTC
I'm finishing the Tamiya kit now, happy with the way it went together but I had a bit of a problem with the suspension. But once I got the tracks on it tightened up.
CMOT
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Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 08:44 AM UTC
I do know the Tamiya Pershing is only accurate for the decals included due to the track type included with the kit unless you go with AM tracks.
Belt_Fed
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Posted: Tuesday, April 21, 2009 - 08:54 AM UTC
Tamiya kit is accurate only for WWII tanks and a select few korean tanks. If you want a baisic Korea Pershing you will have to change the muzzle and replace the tracks. To change the tracks you will also need to re-size the sprocket.
I saw the orange box pershing. I'm getting it. no doubt about that.
I saw the orange box pershing. I'm getting it. no doubt about that.
johnb593
Joined: April 11, 2008
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Posted: Sunday, May 31, 2009 - 01:43 PM UTC
Now that the new DML release has been out for a bit, what's the general concensus of opinion? Is it better that the Tamiya? I have the Tamiya kit (unbuilt so far) but am interested in the new DML kit. Judging by the box info, etc it must be a really good kit. I'd want to do it as a Korean war era tank. Feedback is appreciated!
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