Hello What-if fans, I couldn't wait 'till the start of the campaign so I'm building a E-25 Hongarian style. Be free 2 comment.


I made some things myself like the metal loops, toolbox, the rack for the logs, the exhaustpipes, AA-armor & castingnumber on the gunmantlet. Oh yeah, the circle antenna (typical Hongarian) and a Jerrycanrack. The barrel of the turretMG is drilled. The PE I used is from Voyager. The canvas covered flashsuppressor is from Tank Workshop.
Still a lot of work 2 do, but hey it's fun ! The paintjob is still a big question ...
Grtz Eddy

hi eddie great work i like the exhausts and photoetch work. eddie what gun barrel did you use i bought the jordio rubio barrel for the kit needs a bit of work to fit the saukof mantlet i was looking for an L70 75mm without the muzzelbreak. cant seem to find one. looking forward to seeing it painted.

Nice work on the modifications and details. As a "what if" your paint options are of course much wider than otherwise. Look forward to seeing what you choose.

Eddy,
How are you going to paint and mark it to look Hungarian? They used a 3 tone scheme of a green base to which light and chocolate brown were added. If you need help with markings, feel free to drop me a line.
Regards,
Georg

Eddy, Looks like a nice build so far. As for paint scheme how a wooded winter scheme? Maybe a couple of grays and dark brown and a little light whiteish-green?

Hello amigo's, mucho thanx for your comments.
- Chicane, I used the original barrel from the kit and shortened it about a 1/2 inch and glued on the canvas covered flashsuppressor. Et voila that's it !
- Georg, early Hungarian tanks had a 3 color variant of the "balkenkreuz". Later they copied the German "balkenkreuz", so they looked like German armor (like the allies used a white star) What gives them their Hungarian look is the typical circleformed antenna. I saw some wartime photo's in a French publication called "Tank Zone" (superb btw) This article's about the "Mobile Corps" in the USSR. On page 27 you can see a "Toldi"tank with a bigger circle-antenna, a command version.
About the paintjob, I'm going to do something ... different I guess
That's it for today campers, stay tuned & Grtz Eddy

Hi. Why Hungariain? I love "What ifs" Let your imagination go wild with the camo. Some hungarian tank battalions used a Balkenkreuz in a Green circle. That gun looks like overkill on such a small tank destroyer. Nice one Geraint

Hi Geraint, why Hungarian you ask, well it has something to do with that circle-antenna. It looks so , I don't know, weird I guess. About the camo : I've already got some ideas but it should be something special (or weird perhaps ?) Btw I really love the WW I French tankcamo, so maybe ...

Grtz Eddy

P.s. some photo's

Hello everybody, a little update on the E-25 "Goulash"panzer. I've just given the '25 a layer of black primer/preshading. It lies peacefully in the sun, drying. (2 B honest it looks pretty mean in black ! Hmmm )
Grtz Eddy

That's an interesting idea. I hold the WW2 Hungarian armed forces in very high regard, because they kept on fighting even after the Soviets had occupied all of Hungary, and their government had surrendered, and ordered its troops to give up. In fact, they retreated back to Germany with the Wehrmacht forces, and continued to resist until VE-Day. That is heroism!

Yes it was a shame they had to fight with poor leadership and nightmare logistics. If only the Hungarians did receive German equipment earlier in the war. Imagine how effective they would have been "If only" they did get these beasts . Black hey, that sounds intresting? Doesn't the turret look like something off a BTR. The Soviets must have got the Blue prints of this "paper panzer" and stole some of the designs. Very clean build, looking forward to the special camo. Cheers Geraint

Hi there, he're some more photo's of my "what-if"E-25 Hungarian style. I sprayed the beast in plane gray, followed by some waves of gray/pink , medium brown. Then I put some (brushed) lines underneath the brown. Periscopes are metallic blue, a black barrel & some tarps on the right side.
The emblems are typical Hungarian, I used white "balkenkreuz" (decals) & added the green & red paint by brush.
Oh yeah, I just have 2 mention that the rubber tracks are for "show"purposes only ! ! ! (I love that expression !)




There's a terrible job waiting now, fixing the tracks, link by link, followed by a few washes, filters & etc. Hope y'all like my "Goulash"panzer !
Grtz Eddy

This is one the weirdest camouflages I've ever seen!

Well done.

Lars

nice work eddie very unusual paintjob i like it thanks for sharing

Geat camo type. for some reason it really works, it really breaks the shape of the tank destroyer up. Crazy camo, should of been adopted because it does work. I like it alot. Nice one, it has got me thinking, for my prodject for the What If campain. I am going to play around with your great camo, I love the way it spirals done, from the top ot the hull to the bottom. Great inspiration, thanks. Maybe i will change the colours, but will use the spiral concept. Thinking about it that would make a great name for it "Spiralpattern 46" Eddy what do you think of the name. Cheers Geraint

Hello Geraint, great name for a silly camo ! But serious now, (well) in actual size 1/1 I think a person could hardly see the "spiral" because you see the tank only from 3 sides at the time (for example : front- left or right & partly the top) The camo "happened" that way I think, it wasn't done on purpose. But I'm glad some people like it. It may sound strange but pink is used in camo. A few years ago I saw a camo uniform from somewhere in the Middle-East, can't remember the country, but it was from some specials forces and it was a darker kind of pink, printed with - if I remember well- black images of tanks ! Very flashy, real designer stuff ! In some WW 2 German camo there's pink as well. And don't forget the pink US Navy submarine ! (great series on tv.)
For the campaign I'll build a E-10 Lend-Lease Japanese version with a completely different camo ! On the workbench lies a almost build E-100 from Dragon with an Voyager update, that one will have another type of camo ! But that's 4 later !
Cheers 2 all & grtz Eddy

Awesome camo idea Eddy. It really does work well with the model and doesn't look silly at all. Can't wait for the washes and filters!

Sebastian

hi eddie the british army painted there long range desert landrovers in pink used by the sas it blends into the dessert haze.

Nice "what if" model, Eddy. The camouflage is definently interesting and wird looking in a cool way. Looks like a big rock.

Thanks for sharing

Hi gang, a little update on the E-25. Well, actually I haven't done a lot lately (on the E-25) I started glueing the tracks ... Believe me I DON'T like this part. Altough it looks like I'm actually going 2 succeed in making 'em. At the moment I'm also building a Dragon E-100. Those tracks are the worst I ever worked with ! So now you can imagine what I'm dreaming of ... yeah besides of ... tracks tracks & tracks ! I apologize 'cause it's going 2 take some time 2 complete the "Goulash"E-25. I'm not going 2 post photo's of me making the tracks it might be 2 traumatic ) If I only could make 'em with closed eyes ...
See you soon with more news, grtz Eddy

Great build and very unique camo pattern! I like it, looks fantastic!
Keep at the tracks, all will be well...

Cheers!

Tim

Hello!
I agree the camouflage is very innovative, looks great. However Hungarian armor used the same white cross on a black square as the Air Force after 1942 (yes occassionally also the German cross, mainly for Tigers, but normally it was overpainted to the Hungarian cross). Hungarian Hetzers definitely used the white cross, there are photo proofs. Late in the war the white cross was oversprayed with light gray or panzer yellow to make it more low-vis.

Having said this, you are welcome to retain the tricolor cross as it is a Honvédség '46 model...

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