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Group Build: Tank Destroyers
GunTruck
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California, United States
Joined: December 01, 2001
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 04:06 AM UTC
LEADERS: SS-74 & TankCarl

TIME: 1 July till the end of the year.If you want something and can't get it soon,no worries.

THEME: Tank Destroyers. Purpose built , kill one type of target , vehicles.

ERA: If it was called a tank Destroyer then it is suitable. (Creativity points for pre WWII vehicles)

SECTIONS: Wheeled,Towed Gun,1/2 track,Full track. (Soviet anti tank dogs are a nyet-nyet)

SUBLOTS: As SS said:
"Da Real McCoy"
88mm carried TD (elefant, hornisse, etc), 17 pounders (archers, etc), 90mm, or such big gun TD, SU-122, SU-85, etc

"Da Wannabes"
Hetzers, Marders, etc, etc

"Da Door Knockers"
them halftrack mounted with a 37 mm, etc, etc,

"Da 'Are you Kidding me?' "
either the real crazy 128mm jagdtiger, or the real small TK with 20mm guns...

PARTICIPANTS: It's a Group Build - anyone and everyone is invited - including Aircraft modelers! Whip out those A-10 Warthogs!
Kencelot
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Florida, United States
Joined: December 27, 2001
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 04:41 AM UTC
This is probably the coolest group build project yet...at least for me. I'm just itching to dig into the shelved kits!
Hmmm... problem is, which one to do? All of em? LOL!
generalzod
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 05:02 AM UTC
Hmmmm A Hetzer or a Jagdpanther? Decisions Decisions #:-)
scoccia
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Milano, Italy
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 05:22 AM UTC
I'll be on with a scratchbuilt Fiat AR59 (100% scratchbuilt) with a 106mm recoiless gun (from Dragon).
Ciao
Hellcat
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 09:55 AM UTC
I want in on this. BUT, can some one please tell me if the Semovente M40-75/18 SPG could be considered a TD?
scoccia
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:02 AM UTC
Hellcat, in my view it isn't and it is. It isn't because the design specs were not for a TD but for artillery support to infantry. It is because it was mainly used as a TD, due to the fact that we had no attacking infantry troops to support... If you like an "official" italian thank destroyer was the Semovente 47/32 on L6 hull.
Ciao
Sabot
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:06 AM UTC

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I'll be on with a scratchbuilt Fiat AR59 (100% scratchbuilt) with a 106mm recoiless gun (from Dragon).
Ciao

Educate me Fabio, what does this vehicle look like? Jeep, tracked?

I'm looking at the Ontos or the SPAT.
generalzod
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:08 AM UTC
Would the SturmGeshutz's with the 75mm L/48 gun qualify as a tank destroyer? I know when the StuG's first came out they were supporting artillery But in 1942 they were armed with a longer gun to destroy tanks
Hellcat
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Barcelona, Spain / España
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:09 AM UTC
Thanks Scoccia. Kind of a bummer as I already have the Semovente M40-75/18 SPG, and little funds for another kit right now.
Sabot
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:11 AM UTC

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Thanks Scoccia. Kind of a bummer as I already have the Semovente M40-75/18 SPG, and little funds for another kit right now.

Go for it Hellcat, since this is an informal build, the rules are a bit looser.
jejack2
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Joined: April 09, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:34 AM UTC
Hmm....gives me a reason to start work on my Hornisse now.

Let the fun begin!! (well after 1 July right)
TwistedFate
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Joined: February 11, 2003
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 11:28 AM UTC

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including Aircraft modelers! Whip out those A-10 Warthogs!



Oh yeah, now we're talkin'!!
SS-74
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 12:48 PM UTC

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Would the SturmGeshutz's with the 75mm L/48 gun qualify as a tank destroyer? I know when the StuG's first came out they were supporting artillery But in 1942 they were armed with a longer gun to destroy tanks



I think it should qualify as a tank destoryer. The main reason it changed to L/48 was to counter the tanks.
FAUST
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Joined: June 07, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 01:18 PM UTC
Ola People

I just entered this campaign and I`m going to enter in the äre You kidding class with the Jagdtiger from Revell

pipesmoker
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Virginia, United States
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 02:31 PM UTC
Would this also include the JagdPanzer IV, L70(A), L70(V) and L48?
avukich
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 02:41 PM UTC
Ron,

I would vote for yes on the Jagdpanzers as the name says it all: "Hunting Tank."

Now I need to figure out what I will build:

Hornisse
Hetzer
SU-100
Ferdinand
M10
etc.

Oh God there are too many choices. I think I am going to go to bed now as my head is beginning to hurt. #:-)
hworth18
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 02:46 PM UTC
Sign me up, I have a "late" Hetzer in the closet that I have been waiting for a reason to build..
Oberst
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Ontario, Canada
Joined: June 26, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 02:52 PM UTC
A Hetzer is a wannabe??
What the blunt ?

Apart from you poor categories, I am in with a ___________ HETZER!!!!

warlock0322
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 04:26 PM UTC
A-10's I with tim..Now you talking how bout the Apache too. The hogs little brother...
andy007
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Wellington, New Zealand
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 05:23 PM UTC
Kia ora guys
Iam in I'll do a M-18 Hellcat dave what class is this?
blaster76
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 05:52 PM UTC
Andy, that is a true tank destroyer. I too am going with the Academy version of this one
scoccia
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 10:40 PM UTC
Rob is this but equipped with a recoiless 106mm





Ciao
TankCarl
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 03:48 AM UTC
Hey Hellcat,
If you can find documentation of a unit that had to use its vehicles as anti armor,just put those markings on your vehicle.I can bet just before Italy left the axis,much of their fighting was defensive,so many support guns had to learn direct fire in a hurry.
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SS-74
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 08:07 PM UTC

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A-10's I with tim..Now you talking how bout the Apache too. The hogs little brother...



Not the Academy 1/48 AH-64A though, any other Apache shall do.

hehe, J/K. Apache is fine. #:-)
DaveMan
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 11:48 PM UTC
Just thinking out loud about a Su-25 "Frogfoot" I'll have to check and see which version, if any, would be appropriate here. (Just thought I'd come up with something a bit different)
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