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Waffen SS rank insignia
panzer24
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 03:18 AM UTC
Does anyone know of a review or have used this product: Echelon Fine Details, Waffen SS Rank Insignia for camo uniforms. I have did searchs on all of the sites and come up with nothing. I have also searched my references on unifroms and have not been able to find any with rank identical to these. Would appreciate any help.
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Drader
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 04:38 AM UTC
Don't quite understand your problem, this is the Echelon set:



They should look like this and are worn on the upper arm.

http://www.lssah.com/camouflage_rank_insignia.htm

David
panzer24
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 06:32 AM UTC
Hi David, yes those are the ones. I have two sets. Problem is I have not found an example/picture of any camo uniform with the rank insignia on it. I know they are worn on the shoulder but where on the shoulder, ie how far down from the shoulder.
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monkybutt
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 06:40 AM UTC
r these ranks for dress uniforms or combat uniforms. i hav a great book on the SS n can prob help u
monkybutt
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 06:44 AM UTC
o wait these r for combat uniforms. r they for any specific type of camoflauge?
monkybutt
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 06:55 AM UTC
all the pics in my book hav either oak leaf (spring and fall) and the pea dot pattern and none of them have ranks! that's wierd. maybe they just didnt wear ranks. i bought an set of tamiya 1/48 panzer grenediers and a few had 3 horizontal lines on their shouldiers, mid way the upper arm, about where the SS wore their eagle patches on dress uniforms and i didnt know what the stripes were. i guess they were Oberscharführer stripes molded onto the kit. well good luck! hope iv been some help

Tarok
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 11:24 AM UTC
Don,

I should have reference material on it at home. I'll try remember to post here tonight when home. In the interim, have a look at these Alpine figures for a temporary reference: WSS Panzer Officer and WSS Panzer Crew 44-45

Rudi
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Posted: Sunday, May 03, 2009 - 12:01 PM UTC
Hi

On the arm like this.



Alan
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Posted: Monday, May 04, 2009 - 08:44 AM UTC
most of the pea dot camo uniforms DID NOT show rank. The smocks (pictured above) would sometimes have a horizontal rank representation on them, if it is modeled in you should paint or add the ranks as such.
When you put the egle on the left shoulder, it should fall approx. a third of the way down. The collar shown above IS NOT attached to the smock, it is on the feldgrau unioform underneath.
Waffen ss are like reg force in that they show rank on the feldgrau uniform like the rest of the wehrmacht.
Hohenstaufen
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Posted: Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 06:09 PM UTC
Don,
This transfer set you have is a slight misnomer, as these insignia were also used on Camo gear by the regular army (Wehrmacht/Heer). The moulded on stripes on Andrews figures are the sewn on strips on late smocks for the attachment of foliage, as seen in Alan's photo above the rank insignia (incidentally I suspect this photo is a reconstruction, the smock is not nearly baggy enough, & appears to have shoulder seams, which would not be present on an original issue smock). They were also sewn on the chest and back of the smock. There are clear photos & newsreel taken in Normandy showing officers such as Kurt Meyer, Max Wunsche, SS Sturmbannfuhrer Waldmuller etc from SS HJ wearing these insignia on camo ("pea" & Italian pattern) uniforms. Please note that the stripes and oakleaves on the special insignia for camoflauged uniforms would not stand proud on a 1/35th scale figure, as they were screen printed onto cloth, not embroidered. The Alpine figures are misleading in this respect.
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