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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Zimmerit on Jagdpather
Augie
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 02:10 PM UTC
I am currently working on a Tamiya Jagdpather. I noticed a number of other Jagdpathers have a zimmerit coating. I was wondering if this was commmon on the tank during the later stages of its use? Also what was the prevalence of the zimmerit coating on German tanks during the war?
Any help would be greatly appreciated from you all!
hworth18
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 02:38 PM UTC
Zimmerit was used extensively on many tanks until September 1944. The tricky part is to get the right pattern for the right vehicle.. Tigers, Panthers, Stugs all had different patterns.
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And, some tanks had it, some didn't... Early Tigers, Panthers and Stugs most likely did, but there are pics of them without it.. That's what I love about German armor..It seems like nothing was done with absolute certainty unless proven by pictures and that's a vehicle by vehicle case.
russ
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 02:59 PM UTC
Hope this helps Augie,

Zimmerit was applied to most German tanks during the later part of the war due to so many tanks being destroyed or immobilised on the russian front by soviet soldiers placing magnetic mines on their hulls. The paste itself was not actually anti magnetic but the pattern that was applied to the paste meant that a mine would not stick.
Most Zimmerit was usually applied in the factorys but not always and alot of tank crews applied it themselves in the field or in their Divisional areas throughout Europe.
During the closing months of the war Zimmerit was not applied anymore in the factorys due to the lack of resourses and time. The Germans were losing so many vehicles they were trying to get what they could out to the front lines as quickly as possible.

Happy modelling

Russ
hworth18
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 03:20 PM UTC

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Hope this helps Augie,

Zimmerit was applied to most German tanks during the later part of the war due to so many tanks being destroyed or immobilised on the russian front by soviet soldiers placing magnetic mines on their hulls. The paste itself was not actually anti magnetic but the pattern that was applied to the paste meant that a mine would not stick.
Most Zimmerit was usually applied in the factorys but not always and alot of tank crews applied it themselves in the field or in their Divisional areas throughout Europe.
During the closing months of the war Zimmerit was not applied anymore in the factorys due to the lack of resourses and time. The Germans were losing so many vehicles they were trying to get what they could out to the front lines as quickly as possible.

Happy modelling

Russ



HHhhhmmmmm... According to my resources, Zimmerit was stopped being applied to armor because the Germans found out that nobody was using magnetic mines anymore and there was a rumor that the zimmerit caused fires, which of course is false, but it did stop being used in September 1944.. (referenced from the Armour at war series #7006- Panther)
blaster76
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Posted: Saturday, June 21, 2003 - 05:42 PM UTC
Do your homework on this one. I have seen several different patterns on Jadgpanther and of course many did not have it at all. If you decide to zimmerit, check out what patterns were used on the tank, then decide how you want to apply it. There are some resin aftermarket versions like Jaguar (which I used). Eduard makes a brass glue on, and a company called Cavalier makes a paper thin resin glue on. You can use putty and scape or stamp your design in it as it dries.
thebear
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 04:29 AM UTC
Very early Jagdpanthers had zimmerit applied but if you are doing the Tamiya kit ,you should not add it as it is a late version ..The only ones I have seem with zimmerit are those from the 654th in France. Hope this helps .

Richard
Augie
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 06:51 PM UTC
Thanks alot for the information! It's really appreciated! To ease the pain of construction I probably won't be doing a zimmerit coating and I thank you for making this project a little bit easier.
One thing I love about this site is the eagerness of everyone to help everyone else. Many people not modelling don't understand that this is not a competition and don't understand the help you get from each other.
Once again, thanks for your help!!!
Erock68
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Posted: Sunday, June 22, 2003 - 11:34 PM UTC
This is one of the best things about German Armor. Unless you are modeling a specific vehicle from a specific unit, you can model it anyway you wish. I think this is what make German Armor unique, especially when doing the camo patterns
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