just answered my own question the photo iwas refering to was an M2a4 that will teach me to check further in future
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sponson .30 cal on marine M3a1
Easy_Co
Joined: September 11, 2002
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Posted: Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 10:28 PM UTC
Hi all, Ive been dreaming up a small diorama for my academy M3a1stuart. now I fancied doing something about Guadacanal I have a reference pictorial book about that campaign one photo has a close up of two tankers in front of their stuart and I noticed it had the sponson .30;s in place I checked other photo's and they all showed the Mg's in place.I am confused as I have followed a couple of builds on this site and it was stated that the Marines removed the mg's and blanked off the openings.I noticed that the Marines equipment during the battle was "dated" ie thompsons with drum magazines.bit long winded i guess but did the Marines have the M3a1 or just the M3 during the battles just answered my own question the photo iwas refering to was an M2a4 that will teach me to check further in future
just answered my own question the photo iwas refering to was an M2a4 that will teach me to check further in future
BigfootV
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 02:57 AM UTC
Hi John,
You must refering to Page 16 of the Stuart, U.S. Light tanks in Action book put out by Squadron/Signal Publications, Armor No. 18 book.
If you have this book and flip over to page 18 you'll find some other Stuart without the sponson .30 cal's and the front fenders completely removed.
The reason why the .30's were removed was for more stores. Plus the sponson .30's were useless on the battlefield. The fender were removed from the M3's because the Japanese threw heavy logs and metal into the works and jamming the running gears.
This pratice of removing the .30's varied from unit to unit.
The M2A4's only combat use was in Guadalcanal. Same thing with the .30's in the M2A4's, some were left in, some were removed.
You must refering to Page 16 of the Stuart, U.S. Light tanks in Action book put out by Squadron/Signal Publications, Armor No. 18 book.
If you have this book and flip over to page 18 you'll find some other Stuart without the sponson .30 cal's and the front fenders completely removed.
The reason why the .30's were removed was for more stores. Plus the sponson .30's were useless on the battlefield. The fender were removed from the M3's because the Japanese threw heavy logs and metal into the works and jamming the running gears.
This pratice of removing the .30's varied from unit to unit.
The M2A4's only combat use was in Guadalcanal. Same thing with the .30's in the M2A4's, some were left in, some were removed.
Easy_Co
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 03:05 AM UTC
Hi Brian,That is the same photo only my book is called This is Guadalcanal its more of a photo book than reference.Many thanks for the info thats cleared the fog for me,it states in my book about the japs jamming the running gear then using molotovs.once again many thanks.
BigfootV
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 03:12 AM UTC
John,
No problem, sorry about the photo. Indoor lighting.
Glad to help.
No problem, sorry about the photo. Indoor lighting.
Glad to help.
GeraldOwens
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Posted: Sunday, May 17, 2009 - 10:51 PM UTC
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Hi all, Ive been dreaming up a small diorama for my academy M3a1stuart. now I fancied doing something about Guadacanal I have a reference pictorial book about that campaign one photo has a close up of two tankers in front of their stuart and I noticed it had the sponson .30;s in place I checked other photo's and they all showed the Mg's in place.I am confused as I have followed a couple of builds on this site and it was stated that the Marines removed the mg's and blanked off the openings.I noticed that the Marines equipment during the battle was "dated" ie thompsons with drum magazines.bit long winded i guess but did the Marines have the M3a1 or just the M3 during the battles
While the Army deemed the sponson machine guns useless, the Marines rather liked them, at least initially. The reason they finally had to go was that the spent .30 shell casings would accumulate on the floor and could jam the controls.
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