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Dusty Boots
eugeniusgenx
Prince Edward Island, Canada
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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 01:59 PM UTC
What techniques do you use for depicting dusty boots? I am working on a tiger tank crew at the moment.
Belt_Fed
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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 02:07 PM UTC
pigments might do the trick. I'm not sure, i have the same question
Kastanova
Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 02:11 PM UTC
Tamiya weathering sticks are great, and so are the 'make-up sets'. but i prefer ground up artist pastels from most artist stores, they have a wide range of colours and a generaly inexpensive, i find the colour which matches the ground work or dirt i want to replicate:
materials: card-paper, pastel/s and a old brush
1; I rub the pastel softly across a peice of paper card-paper leaving a few crumbs so to speak.
2; then brush the the paint brush acrossthe streak mark and the crumbs softly,
3; softlybrush the tainted brush across the prepainted figures boots in a upwards motion.
it may tke a few trys and the best thing is water removes it quite easily so you can start again.
Hope it helps
Mat
materials: card-paper, pastel/s and a old brush
1; I rub the pastel softly across a peice of paper card-paper leaving a few crumbs so to speak.
2; then brush the the paint brush acrossthe streak mark and the crumbs softly,
3; softlybrush the tainted brush across the prepainted figures boots in a upwards motion.
it may tke a few trys and the best thing is water removes it quite easily so you can start again.
Hope it helps
Mat
Precious_rob
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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 03:32 PM UTC
I use MIG pigments Dried Mid on the boots of my 1/16th scale figures and it leaves a descent dusty boot look. Should probably do the same for small scale figures
eugeniusgenx
Prince Edward Island, Canada
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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:05 PM UTC
When you speak of pastels, do you mean the harder chalky ones or the regular soft (classic if you will) pastels?
Mig pigments are not available here, and not a financial option at the moment.
Mig pigments are not available here, and not a financial option at the moment.
alanmac
United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:25 PM UTC
Hi
If buying pastels from art shops etc. to "do your own thing" it should be Chalk Pastels not Oil Pastels.
Alan
If buying pastels from art shops etc. to "do your own thing" it should be Chalk Pastels not Oil Pastels.
Alan
eugeniusgenx
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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:36 PM UTC
Ah. that is what I thought. I have some chalk pastels. I will try them out this evening.
jimbrae
Provincia de Lugo, Spain / Espaņa
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Posted: Monday, May 25, 2009 - 10:53 PM UTC
Mig Pigments are. IMO, the best for this kind of work - simply because they are a much finer grain than you can obtain from grinding down chalk pastels.
Tarok
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Posted: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 01:05 AM UTC
Most figure modellers will probably tell you to simply and very lightly dry-brush the dirt, dust, mud etc on...
Tojo72
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Posted: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 01:32 AM UTC
I am no expert,but I like the way Mig Pigments work.
lespauljames
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Posted: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 01:37 AM UTC
Quoted Text
When you speak of pastels, do you mean the harder chalky ones or the regular soft (classic if you will) pastels?
Mig pigments are not available here, and not a financial option at the moment.
has no one read this?
i would say try the chalk pastels andf try dry brushing mud:)
good luck
Tarok
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Posted: Tuesday, May 26, 2009 - 01:59 AM UTC
A combination of db'ing and extremely light pastels - and only to make the transition between the dry sand and the boots/trousers.
Tarok
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Posted: Monday, June 01, 2009 - 03:59 PM UTC
You've probably figured out what to do by now, but I came across this picture of a figure I did about 5 years ago now. While the intent at the time had been to show dry mud, IMO it looks more like dust. This was done by dry-brushing enamels, building up the layers where I needed it thicker.
More photos in my gallery - go to page 3.
Rudi
More photos in my gallery - go to page 3.
Rudi
Desmoquattro
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Posted: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 06:53 AM UTC
Chalk pastels actually have a much finer grain than pigments if you grind them correctly (I use a piece of fine mesh). But that is their weakness - pastel dust will stick to everything and is impossible to remove, while pigments are easier to control and remove if so desired.
Pyromaniac
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Posted: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 - 09:35 AM UTC
imo migments are second to none for subtlety. however i believe you may find natural dust fairly effective for this. pastels are great if you can find the right colours, all of mine seem to be missing except garish greens and oranges. a bit of dry brushing with mud colours before pigments, (or substitutes for pigments), will probably help.