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D-Day, 65 yrs. later.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 03:31 AM UTC
Hey Gang,
Just a reminder that this Saturday is the 65th Ann. of the D-day landings.
Also, The Military channel is going to show at 10:00pm CST rare COLOR footage of the landings. So set your DVR's,Tivo's, VCR's, 8 Track tape recorders.

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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 03:36 AM UTC
Damn, thanks for the reminder, I would have almost forgotten! I'm not to sure if I can catch that show though, I'll just have to hope they have the military channel on Hawaii.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 04:03 AM UTC
The French are hosting it, just like back in 1944.

My heart goes out to all that fell and fought for freedom.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 08:23 AM UTC
Those who fought for freedom in WWII have been appropriately called "The Greatest Generation." One more statistic to consider for the 6th of June: we are losing those Veterans at the rate of 1200 per day. Our history is dying, and passing the torch to new generations. Give them thanks while you still can; send out a good thought of gratitude; be grateful and responsible with their victory. Freedom isn't free, somebody paid. They paid. The Vets of: England, France, Russia, U.S.A., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and, if I forgot anyone...I apologize. thank you for your service.

Matt
Please feel free to add countries to this thread that I might have left off.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 09:26 AM UTC
Don't forget Poland and Norway. They fought as well. I am a young generation, I feel that we deserve to treat our Vetereans with the up most respect.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 10:03 AM UTC
Good additions. thanks,
Matt
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 11:40 AM UTC

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Hey Gang,
Just a reminder that this Saturday is the 65th Ann. of the D-day landings.
Also, The Military channel is going to show at 10:00pm CST rare COLOR footage of the landings. So set your DVR's,Tivo's, VCR's, 8 Track tape recorders.




are you talking about the color of war show? my directv says it is on at 10pm EST, which should be 1 hour different from CST. i wonder if they are keeping the same hours based on timezone. i am DVR'ing pretty much everything from the entire day since D-Day is my favorite subject, even though i am pretty sure i have seen most of them.

also, if it is the same color of war that i have on DVD, it isnt the greatest. it has a tendency to bounce around a bit too much and makes it a bit hard to follow. i am kind of hoping it isnt the same.

anyway, thanks for the reminder
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Posted: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 - 11:59 AM UTC
Hey Mike,
Yep, that's the same program.

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Posted: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 08:58 AM UTC
my father was on omaha beach.he drove the landing crafts in.he got hit on the second or 3rd trip in and wound up on the beach.After Europe he was shipped to saipan in the pacific,training to invade Japan..thank god he didnt have to go., hes gone now,but i always remember what that generation did
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Posted: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 - 09:08 AM UTC

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Don't forget Poland and Norway. They fought as well. I am a young generation, I feel that we deserve to treat our Vetereans with the up most respect.



Thanks mate!
I think it would be hard to forget about Poland concerning almos any event of WWII .
A.
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 12:26 AM UTC
This topic really does need to go in the History Club forum.

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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 12:54 AM UTC
i think it belongs in both....

im remeberance of the troops who landed,
and all of the men and women of all nationalities, that helped lift the impending clouds of nazi opression, and gave europe its freedom back.
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 01:23 AM UTC
Curiously enough, there are two nationalities who are frequently overlooked in the D-Day landings - Korea and Spain. One of the curiosities is that one of the first 'Germans' captured was actually Korean. As to the Spanish, a number of Republican volunteers served with the British Army and went in with the first waves on D-Day. The majority, who served with LeClerc's 2nd Armored, didn't land until much later but did have the singular 'Fame' to receive the surrender of the German Commander of Paris.

No, this Topic is perfectly fine here on the Armor Forums...
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 01:39 AM UTC

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Curiously enough, there are two nationalities who are frequently overlooked in the D-Day landings - Korea and Spain. One of the curiosities is that one of the first 'Germans' captured was actually Korean. As to the Spanish, a number of Republican volunteers served with the British Army and went in with the first waves on D-Day. The majority, who served with LeClerc's 2nd Armored, didn't land until much later but did have the singular 'Fame' to receive the surrender of the German Commander of Paris.

No, this Topic is perfectly fine here on the Armor Forums...



That's a great reminder Jim.

Without tthat sacrifice 65 years ago, Europe and much of the world is a much different place today.
Thank you D DAY and all allied veterans.
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 01:42 AM UTC

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No, this Topic is perfectly fine here on the Armor Forums...


Yes, it certainly isn't doing any harm.

But I believe that it would make good content for the History Club, which is after all the place on this site for discussing Military History and past events.

Your assistance in helping the History Club grow and develop by directing relevant topics there would be much appreciated Jim.

Chas
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 03:19 AM UTC

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No, this Topic is perfectly fine here on the Armor Forums...


Yes, it certainly isn't doing any harm.

But I believe that it would make good content for the History Club, which is after all the place on this site for discussing Military History and past events.

Your assistance in helping the History Club grow and develop by directing relevant topics there would be much appreciated Jim.

Chas



Chas, please don't misinterpet my actions. The correct place for this IS undoubtedly the History Club. However, perhaps sometimes we should use threads like this to re-enforce the idea that AFVs are part of a historical process and not simply isolated technology as is almost always the case.

The History Club, for those unaware of it, is a Forum to bring up topics of a purely historical (rather simply technological) nature.

Well worth checking out as there are some excellent Topics. It can be seen:

https://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=SquawkBox&file=index&req=viewforum&forum_id=15
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 03:45 AM UTC
Hey Brian, your right mate,sadly were losing this fine generation year on year and it will be up to all of us not to forget in future years. The occassion is also being tainted by politics over here between France and the UK.
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 04:39 AM UTC
Since we’re on it, I’d like to take the opportunity and mention also the participation of the Czechoslovak (exiled) soldiers and airmen.

Personally, being much younger generation, I have no need to draw lines any longer. Thoughts of commemoration to all who had been there...

-A-
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 04:46 AM UTC
Hi Jim,

Great to know we both understand the value of the History Club to the site. You are right about it being a place to recognise the historical side of the military, as well as technological.

But I am still not understanding why the re-enforcing of "the idea that AFVs are part of a historical process and not simply isolated technology " needs to take place in the armour forum. Other perceptions of "isolated technology" such as aircraft and ships were also integral (if not more so) to the success of D-Day. As the History Club is a Network-wide forum, a far more encompassing discussion could potentially take place if the thread was placed there...

Chas
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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 04:58 AM UTC

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But I am still not understanding why the re-enforcing of "the idea that AFVs are part of a historical process and not simply isolated technology " needs to take place in the armour forum. Other perceptions of "isolated technology" such as aircraft and ships were also integral (if not more so) to the success of D-Day. As the History Club is a Network-wide forum, a far more encompassing discussion could potentially take place if the thread was placed there...



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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 10:24 AM UTC
Hey Chas,
I've been watching this from the sidelines and agree that I should of placed this in the History Forum. But since color footage of the Landings, or any color battle footage during WWII, is so very hard to come by I decided to place it here.
This way I've killed two birds with one stone, reminding everyone what an event in history D-Day was and not to let this fade into just being another date, plus it gives us a chance to dispel some of the color question us modellers have concerning the armor, aircraft, ship, etc. used on both side. It also might raise some question has well.
I hope after you read this you'll understand why I placed it here.

Hey Phil,
Yes this event with be a political 3 ring circus and it me off to no end that any event of historical meaning has to turned into a showcase for blowhards. The current political leaders should be studying they're history before it gets repeated. "Those who don't study and learn from the past are condemned to repeat it."

Hey Jim,
I guess I'm guilty of forgetting about the roles Spain and Korea had during the Landings. Their parts are the most read about and well known I'm afraid.

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Posted: Thursday, June 04, 2009 - 06:31 PM UTC
We also shouldn't forget that whilst the D-Day invasion was taking place there were already troops of all the allied nations fighting in the Far-East and in Europe. The "D-day Dodgers" were vilified in parliament by Lady Nancy Astor despite the heavy fighting carried out by US and Commonwealth troops in Italy, and of course the US was already fighting through the Pacific islands whilst Commonwealth troops were in Burma etc.

They all fought to bring the end of oppression, but some are almost overlooked in history.........
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Posted: Friday, June 05, 2009 - 01:24 AM UTC

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Those who fought for freedom in WWII have been appropriately called "The Greatest Generation." . The Vets of: England, France, Russia, U.S.A., Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and, if I forgot anyone...I apologize. thank you for your service.
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The "Brave & Free" Poles of the 1st Armoured Division, and the many other Poles in the Para's, the Air Force, the Navy, and those who fought bravely in the Italian Campaign. I've had the pleasure of meeting several of these great men.

They are wonderful and honorable gentlemen !

It has been my honor to have known them....

Paul
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