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martyncrowther
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Posted: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 11:43 AM UTC
Hi guys what type of figures can I use for Operation restore hope? What type of uniform and body armour did they have?

Any manufacture do suitable figures?

Thanks

Martyn
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Posted: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 12:04 PM UTC
i think dragon do but its really hard to find. im looking for more info on this too, the movies black hawk down could probably tell you more than i can.
martyncrowther
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Posted: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 12:11 PM UTC
Hi mate, I have watched the movie, but when I look at pictures from the time the uniforms don't match. BHD has the 3 colour camo where as phots are shoing the choc chip camo. Darn it.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 12:15 PM UTC
yeah many movies are sometime inaccurate. i remember in a battle of the bulge movie, they had m47 pattons and king tigers . may be gino or sabot could fill us in,
martyncrowther
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Posted: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 12:18 PM UTC

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may be gino or sabot could fill us in,

I was kind of hoping they would!!!!!
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Posted: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 12:34 PM UTC
Well im not Gino or Sabot, but maybe I can help. Army troops wore choc chip camo, delta force wore 3 tone. That said as, DCU's were introduced in 1992 its likely that you will see army troops wearing some DCU's, but I imagine Choc chip was still more common.

The soldiers in Black Hawk Down are Army Rangers and Delta operators. Currently Dragon has a set of suitable Delta figures and Imperium (resin figure company from Russia) are supposed to be working on some, and have one released already.

As for the Rangers, no one makes any suitable Rangers for Gothic Serpent, as there are currently no figures on the market, that im aware of, with the ranger body armor sculpted on them. Aside from the body armor much of their gear is the same as regular army.

Dragon do several sets of ODS figures, all of which can be used as Army soldiers during Operation Restore Hope. You can also use the Tamiya figures, and any other figures wearing PASGT armor vest, as well as the older ALICE gear and old desert garb.
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Posted: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 01:51 PM UTC
I think Dragon 3022 (Delta Force Somalia 1993) and 3027 (US Modern Forces) should fit your need depending on what unit you like to use.

Paul
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Posted: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 - 02:23 PM UTC
We wore 3DCUs in Somalia. The body armor used varied from one group to another.Some wore the PASGT, RBAs (otherwise known as Ranger Body Armor), and TP1Es (if memory serves right). My RBA was black and not Woodland.
The movie BHD was supplied by BlackHawk Industries. The gear that the Delta used in the movie was nonexistant then. Most all high speed gear was from Eagle, London Bridge Tactical. or custom made. Back then, most gear was made of some cheap material that faded fast and tore just as quick. None of the fancy 1000D Cordura stuff used today.
I've still got some of that old high speed junk in storage. Things have changed.
martyncrowther
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Posted: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 04:01 AM UTC
Thanks Rob much appreciated!

Thanks Paul, Will look out for that set.


Wow tanks Arnold!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 04:22 AM UTC
No worries Martyn, if you'll be at duxford on Sunday with your bro, come find me and I'll bring a big tub of DML figure parts, I can sell you some bits real cheap and you'll be able to make up some US figures!
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Posted: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 - 09:35 PM UTC
Thanks Rob! Will do
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