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downtowndeco
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 02:10 PM UTC
jimz66
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 02:37 PM UTC
GREAT STUFF Randy! I really like that apartment building not the one with the Abrams but the other one, is that for WWII in Europe?
jba
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Posted: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 - 08:33 PM UTC
"Station de train"?
some of us need to travel more..
some of us need to travel more..
downtowndeco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:49 AM UTC
I used a translator, something I won't do again. Please, what is the correct term? Thanks.
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"Station de train"?
some of us need to travel more..
lespauljames
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 02:57 AM UTC
i believe its
"Gare"
as in
train station,
"Gare"
as in
train station,
downtowndeco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:10 AM UTC
Thank you. I ran "Gare" through 4 different translators and 3 of them said "Gare" = "Park", One said it meant "Railway Station". : )
From now on I'm only working off of vintage photos.
Randy
From now on I'm only working off of vintage photos.
Randy
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i believe its
"Gare"
as in
train station,
lespauljames
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:14 AM UTC
hah what translator,
park can be
parc,
or for a public park garden,
jardin public
i double checked these with google translator( i didnt take them directly, i do know basic french)
park can be
parc,
or for a public park garden,
jardin public
i double checked these with google translator( i didnt take them directly, i do know basic french)
downtowndeco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:18 AM UTC
I believe you, but it just goes to show how "creative" some of the translators are. : )
Thanks again!
Randy
Thanks again!
Randy
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hah what translator,
park can be
parc,
or for a public park garden,
jardin public
i double checked these with google translator( i didnt take them directly, i do know basic french)
kaiserine
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 03:24 AM UTC
You're right James that "GARE"
But in France, never a gare would be called "GARE".
Always is the location / town / city / village name on the signs.
This is far too "générique".
But in France, never a gare would be called "GARE".
Always is the location / town / city / village name on the signs.
This is far too "générique".
jba
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 05:37 AM UTC
Randy, i know a lot of people appear to think that you are doing great stuff but well..
I think just TWO (2) minutes of *research* on your products would NOT be time spent in vain.
Be it your sort of building of a few weeks back, your recent bizarre French bakery, everything you sort of dump lately appears to be not really thought of.
Where do you live Randy? Montana? Now I would give a few fingers to spend a few weeks in Montana. Well if I would happen to build a building located in Montana, believe me, the second thing (after checking on some sites) i would have done would be to check WHO on this site hails from Montana, and ask him first privately if the thing just suit.
That's not a translator you need Randy, Google is your friend, USE IT!
As for french railway stations, Alexandre is right, and then you have to know that the French spend a lot on those stations because be it the ones from the mid/late XIXth century or the ones who got rebuilt after WW1, they all were built at a time when France could afford it, and also they sort of respect the style of local housing.
Actually I have yet to see a railway station that looks like yours
cheers
JB
[edit]
here, because I care..
I swear I spent 20 secs on Google to find that one
I think just TWO (2) minutes of *research* on your products would NOT be time spent in vain.
Be it your sort of building of a few weeks back, your recent bizarre French bakery, everything you sort of dump lately appears to be not really thought of.
Where do you live Randy? Montana? Now I would give a few fingers to spend a few weeks in Montana. Well if I would happen to build a building located in Montana, believe me, the second thing (after checking on some sites) i would have done would be to check WHO on this site hails from Montana, and ask him first privately if the thing just suit.
That's not a translator you need Randy, Google is your friend, USE IT!
As for french railway stations, Alexandre is right, and then you have to know that the French spend a lot on those stations because be it the ones from the mid/late XIXth century or the ones who got rebuilt after WW1, they all were built at a time when France could afford it, and also they sort of respect the style of local housing.
Actually I have yet to see a railway station that looks like yours
cheers
JB
[edit]
here, because I care..
I swear I spent 20 secs on Google to find that one
downtowndeco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 08:58 AM UTC
Thanks for your sincere (cough) concern. It is not a train station, but simply an entrance to a pathway to a station. Basically an alleyway. The kit is called "To Trains". Take the sign off & make it whatever you like.
Quite frankly I don't care for your tone and attitude. While I'm completely open to constructive criticism, you bring a nastyness to the discussion that IMO is not warranted.
Cheers.
Randy Pepprock
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Quite frankly I don't care for your tone and attitude. While I'm completely open to constructive criticism, you bring a nastyness to the discussion that IMO is not warranted.
Cheers.
Randy Pepprock
Dioramas Plus
Quoted Text
Randy, i know a lot of people appear to think that you are doing great stuff but well..
I think just TWO (2) minutes of *research* on your products would NOT be time spent in vain.
Be it your sort of building of a few weeks back, your recent bizarre French bakery, everything you sort of dump lately appears to be not really thought of.
Where do you live Randy? Montana? Now I would give a few fingers to spend a few weeks in Montana. Well if I would happen to build a building located in Montana, believe me, the second thing (after checking on some sites) i would have done would be to check WHO on this site hails from Montana, and ask him first privately if the thing just suit.
That's not a translator you need Randy, Google is your friend, USE IT!
As for french railway stations, Alexandre is right, and then you have to know that the French spend a lot on those stations because be it the ones from the mid/late XIXth century or the ones who got rebuilt after WW1, they all were built at a time when France could afford it, and also they sort of respect the style of local housing.
Actually I have yet to see a railway station that looks like yours
cheers
JB
[edit]
here, because I care..
I swear I spent 20 secs on Google to find that one
kaiserine
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 09:15 AM UTC
[quote]Take the sign off & make it whatever you like.[quote]
That's quite unusual to say, if you care a minimum of accuracy.
And just my 2 cents Randy, but I've kindly ( IMO) offer you to give you some examples of 40's era signs in your other post (french bakery) and suggested you to give another try at your Station de train signs, but, really, you look like you don't care about my thoughts.
But maybe a french graphic designer isn't good enough for your french commercials signs.
Alexandre.
That's quite unusual to say, if you care a minimum of accuracy.
And just my 2 cents Randy, but I've kindly ( IMO) offer you to give you some examples of 40's era signs in your other post (french bakery) and suggested you to give another try at your Station de train signs, but, really, you look like you don't care about my thoughts.
But maybe a french graphic designer isn't good enough for your french commercials signs.
Alexandre.
lespauljames
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 09:31 AM UTC
i see Jba's vein, but also i see yours Randy,
Jba is always seems to be sceptical about diorama products, but thats probably due to the sucess he has had from scratchbuilding, and making use of non modelling items to make what he does,
in my honest opinion, the last few releases i ahve seen have been a little under par for you, i ahve noticed some real gems in your collection dont get me wrong,
items like, :
brick factory,
goverment ruins,
and the three story apartment ( that can be used anywhere)
are fantastic, brilliant detail, great masonry,
there are two products i would improve,
i feel the french bakery is a little cartoony, the tarp over the door i would say should be a little longer, and the spars should be located further down, maybe even underneath, all of my shops that i have locally, that have been in family buisnesses for 50-100 years have a cover supported from underneath the front doors also seem very small, and usually these buildingd would also have had a ?guilding? around windows and enterances,
plus the only thing i see that sets it aside as a bakery is the fact it has boulangerie stuck on it,
I would suggest marketing an all purpous building, with wich you can use your imagination or purchase some signs or something that would set it aside as a bakery, cakeshop, tailor, whatever, say as opposed to creating bakery, butcher, you could create " european 2 story shop" or "Small normandy botique" i may be being vague but im sure you get what i mean,
bear in mind this isnt meant to disrespect or rubbish anything, just a few ideas,
the idea of To Trains is a good one, but i would see more of a plaster facade the bricks on the enterance, or even an enterance to an enterance,
you say, take the sign off and do with it what you want, why dont you, as the manufacturer remove the label of train station , and to trains, again ahve a generic product, and maybe offer suggesions in your description, im just throwing out ideas, i hope somehting helps,
just my tuppence
Jba is always seems to be sceptical about diorama products, but thats probably due to the sucess he has had from scratchbuilding, and making use of non modelling items to make what he does,
in my honest opinion, the last few releases i ahve seen have been a little under par for you, i ahve noticed some real gems in your collection dont get me wrong,
items like, :
brick factory,
goverment ruins,
and the three story apartment ( that can be used anywhere)
are fantastic, brilliant detail, great masonry,
there are two products i would improve,
i feel the french bakery is a little cartoony, the tarp over the door i would say should be a little longer, and the spars should be located further down, maybe even underneath, all of my shops that i have locally, that have been in family buisnesses for 50-100 years have a cover supported from underneath the front doors also seem very small, and usually these buildingd would also have had a ?guilding? around windows and enterances,
plus the only thing i see that sets it aside as a bakery is the fact it has boulangerie stuck on it,
I would suggest marketing an all purpous building, with wich you can use your imagination or purchase some signs or something that would set it aside as a bakery, cakeshop, tailor, whatever, say as opposed to creating bakery, butcher, you could create " european 2 story shop" or "Small normandy botique" i may be being vague but im sure you get what i mean,
bear in mind this isnt meant to disrespect or rubbish anything, just a few ideas,
the idea of To Trains is a good one, but i would see more of a plaster facade the bricks on the enterance, or even an enterance to an enterance,
you say, take the sign off and do with it what you want, why dont you, as the manufacturer remove the label of train station , and to trains, again ahve a generic product, and maybe offer suggesions in your description, im just throwing out ideas, i hope somehting helps,
just my tuppence
downtowndeco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 09:36 AM UTC
Thank you James. I don't mind constructive criticism. But I'm only human & if I feel someone is being nasty just for the sake of being nasty it rubs me the wrong way just the way it would anyone else.
Yes, generic versions are probably the best. People can't seem to see past or imagine what a building would look like without the signs I guess.
Cheers.
Randy
Yes, generic versions are probably the best. People can't seem to see past or imagine what a building would look like without the signs I guess.
Cheers.
Randy
Quoted Text
i see Jba's vein, but also i see yours Randy,
Jba is always seems to be sceptical about diorama products, but thats probably due to the sucess he has had from scratchbuilding, and making use of non modelling items to make what he does,
in my honest opinion, the last few releases i ahve seen have been a little under par for you, i ahve noticed some real gems in your collection dont get me wrong,
items like, :
brick factory,
goverment ruins,
and the three story apartment ( that can be used anywhere)
are fantastic, brilliant detail, great masonry,
there are two products i would improve,
i feel the french bakery is a little cartoony, the tarp over the door i would say should be a little longer, and the spars should be located further down, maybe even underneath, all of my shops that i have locally, that have been in family buisnesses for 50-100 years have a cover supported from underneath the front doors also seem very small, and usually these buildingd would also have had a ?guilding? around windows and enterances,
plus the only thing i see that sets it aside as a bakery is the fact it has boulangerie stuck on it,
I would suggest marketing an all purpous building, with wich you can use your imagination or purchase some signs or something that would set it aside as a bakery, cakeshop, tailor, whatever, say as opposed to creating bakery, butcher, you could create " european 2 story shop" or "Small normandy botique" i may be being vague but im sure you get what i mean,
bear in mind this isnt meant to disrespect or rubbish anything, just a few ideas,
the idea of To Trains is a good one, but i would see more of a plaster facade the bricks on the enterance, or even an enterance to an enterance,
you say, take the sign off and do with it what you want, why dont you, as the manufacturer remove the label of train station , and to trains, again ahve a generic product, and maybe offer suggesions in your description, im just throwing out ideas, i hope somehting helps,
just my tuppence
alanmac
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 10:23 AM UTC
Randy
To be honest I think you have to re-adjust your frame of mind when you are offering up your items to the market. It's not like a fellow modeller presenting his latest creation, it's a commercial venture asking people to part with their hard earned cash to buy what you produce.
It's not on the same level and you must expect in what ever circumstance, rightly or wrongly your buildings will come under greater scrutiny than those of a modeller showing his last creation. If you can't accept that without getting upset I'd suggest not posting requesting feedback to be honest.
I do have some opinions and comments about your product range but won't comment further unless you ask me because I'm getting the feeling you are starting to resent some of the stronger criticism of what you are showing. Comments that whilst hard to hear from your perspective I believe are justified and true.
regards
Alan
To be honest I think you have to re-adjust your frame of mind when you are offering up your items to the market. It's not like a fellow modeller presenting his latest creation, it's a commercial venture asking people to part with their hard earned cash to buy what you produce.
It's not on the same level and you must expect in what ever circumstance, rightly or wrongly your buildings will come under greater scrutiny than those of a modeller showing his last creation. If you can't accept that without getting upset I'd suggest not posting requesting feedback to be honest.
I do have some opinions and comments about your product range but won't comment further unless you ask me because I'm getting the feeling you are starting to resent some of the stronger criticism of what you are showing. Comments that whilst hard to hear from your perspective I believe are justified and true.
regards
Alan
downtowndeco
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:34 AM UTC
Again, I don't mind honest, constructive comments at all. What gets me is rude almost personal jabs when they are not called for.
Another angle of the kit. It's just a part of a wall, an entranceway & a back wall to frame the dio. That's it. Forget the stupid sign already. : ) It's just a small scene to place a couple figures. I think it sort of makes the viewer peer into the alleyway to see what's there but what do I know? : )
I'm taking a break for a few weeks to work on some other projects. Cheers.
Randy Pepprock
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Another angle of the kit. It's just a part of a wall, an entranceway & a back wall to frame the dio. That's it. Forget the stupid sign already. : ) It's just a small scene to place a couple figures. I think it sort of makes the viewer peer into the alleyway to see what's there but what do I know? : )
I'm taking a break for a few weeks to work on some other projects. Cheers.
Randy Pepprock
Dioramas Plus
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