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hey, is vallejo german uniform , 920, accurate out of the bottle for the drabby green german ww2 uniform
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is vallejo german uniform accurate out of the
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 11:46 AM UTC
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 12:22 PM UTC
My opinion, NO. It's sorta on the bright green side of field grey. I've used it more as a "highlight" for standard uniforms, than as a base color.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 12:38 PM UTC
thanks Rod, as i thought! could you suggest a "closest " colour, or a good way to mix it?
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 12:41 PM UTC
James,
I normally use Vallejo Field Grey, for a base, then add SMALL amounts of German uniform and use it for a highlight. I use german grey, in small amounts, mixed with the field grey, for shadows.
I normally use Vallejo Field Grey, for a base, then add SMALL amounts of German uniform and use it for a highlight. I use german grey, in small amounts, mixed with the field grey, for shadows.
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Posted: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 - 12:56 PM UTC
thanks again Rod, im trying to find a bottle where the shipping isnt twice the price of the paint
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 12:18 AM UTC
Hi James
Can't remember where you are in the South but an alternative to finding a Vallejo stockist near you is to check on any shops, models of all types trains etc. wargaming shops, as I noticed a range of figures and paints called Flames of War being stocked in some shops. They appear to be using Vallejo paints rebranded and boxed in FoW packaging but I believe if you check you'll find the reference numbers and the colours are the same as Vallejo
Here is a connection to their NZ online store web site. But I've seen them in my local Hobbycraft store.
Flames of War
Could be another alternative.
Alan
Can't remember where you are in the South but an alternative to finding a Vallejo stockist near you is to check on any shops, models of all types trains etc. wargaming shops, as I noticed a range of figures and paints called Flames of War being stocked in some shops. They appear to be using Vallejo paints rebranded and boxed in FoW packaging but I believe if you check you'll find the reference numbers and the colours are the same as Vallejo
Here is a connection to their NZ online store web site. But I've seen them in my local Hobbycraft store.
Flames of War
Could be another alternative.
Alan
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 12:44 AM UTC
Hey Alan, my local that stocked vallejo shut down, and the other local stocks humbrol and tamiya, as does the local railway shop. there arent many else places i can get to that would be cost effective, i will be keeping my eyes open tho, thankyou for the heads up
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 03:06 AM UTC
I think modelsforsale.co.uk stock Vallejo. I seem to recall buying from them before...
See here for just one mix for field grey WWII German Field Grey #1 (Brett Avants)
I also suggest, with your "intermediate painter" thread in mind, suggest you pick up a few titles like Calvin Tan's Modelling WSS, or the modelling Fallshirmjager title in the Osprey range. There are naturally plenty of other books, which I'll suggest in your other thread when I have a moment.
p.s. don't forget that German field grey did change through the war, with it being rather green toward the end. Which period would you be modelling?
See here for just one mix for field grey WWII German Field Grey #1 (Brett Avants)
I also suggest, with your "intermediate painter" thread in mind, suggest you pick up a few titles like Calvin Tan's Modelling WSS, or the modelling Fallshirmjager title in the Osprey range. There are naturally plenty of other books, which I'll suggest in your other thread when I have a moment.
p.s. don't forget that German field grey did change through the war, with it being rather green toward the end. Which period would you be modelling?
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 06:19 AM UTC
thanks Rudi, i am hoping to model uniforms from throughout the war, in a mix of 1/48 and 35th, maybe adventuring to 1/16,
i will see if they have the books at a local market( they stock a few refernce books and osprey modelling books, so ill have a look round,
this is my use of german uniform, on a 1.48 figure, on a dml 35th, it i just too light and creamy,
sorry for the blur, its cropped from a large picture, the shien on the hat is my shading, not light
i will see if they have the books at a local market( they stock a few refernce books and osprey modelling books, so ill have a look round,
this is my use of german uniform, on a 1.48 figure, on a dml 35th, it i just too light and creamy,
sorry for the blur, its cropped from a large picture, the shien on the hat is my shading, not light
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 09:56 AM UTC
James,
If you want to model figures throughout the war more seriously, which it sounds like you do, I'm afraid you're going to have to invest in a wider palette. One colour won't suit all unfortunately. But colours won't change depending on scale, perhaps just how you apply them
BTW & FYI, with the figure you show above, the M40 tunic is worn so it's most likely that the trousers should have been field grey, and not stone grey Sorry, just some of that pointless info I store in me head
RR
If you want to model figures throughout the war more seriously, which it sounds like you do, I'm afraid you're going to have to invest in a wider palette. One colour won't suit all unfortunately. But colours won't change depending on scale, perhaps just how you apply them
BTW & FYI, with the figure you show above, the M40 tunic is worn so it's most likely that the trousers should have been field grey, and not stone grey Sorry, just some of that pointless info I store in me head
RR
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Posted: Thursday, July 16, 2009 - 10:34 AM UTC
Rudi,
its not pointless! ha to a non modelling accountant maybe, but knowlege shared is knowlege gained, to be honest i only add the grey trousers as a contrast to make it more interesting,
i presume ( something i shouldnt do) that the M 40 tunic was introduced in 1940,
so am i correct in saying the green/grey, or grey/grey was much more commonly used in the earlir part of the war?
and dont worry, my paint collection is steadily growing 1 pot at a time!
its not pointless! ha to a non modelling accountant maybe, but knowlege shared is knowlege gained, to be honest i only add the grey trousers as a contrast to make it more interesting,
i presume ( something i shouldnt do) that the M 40 tunic was introduced in 1940,
so am i correct in saying the green/grey, or grey/grey was much more commonly used in the earlir part of the war?
and dont worry, my paint collection is steadily growing 1 pot at a time!
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Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 02:06 PM UTC
Ah the standby. The quest for an "out-of-the-bottle" accurate color for the wehrmacht. One thing is important to remember. Units varied in tone. The bigger picture is important though. The germans were ardent recyclers, so it would be unlikely to see very many uniforms exactly alike. I alas personally disagree with the tendency to make the trousers bluish. They ARE different (often and NOT always) than the tunic, but not blue, more grey. To achieve the color I use feldgrau, dark yellow and some field grey, and mostly straight grey. My choice is still tamiya, personal preference. I vary the colors slightly even over a few men, so that on study, a very slight difference may be noted, while uniform continuity of theme can be seen.
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Posted: Saturday, July 18, 2009 - 09:18 PM UTC
Hi
as can be seen by this collection of actual tunics the colour varied considerably due to manufacturing, wear and tear etc.
Hope its of some help.
Alan
as can be seen by this collection of actual tunics the colour varied considerably due to manufacturing, wear and tear etc.
Hope its of some help.
Alan
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Posted: Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 01:10 AM UTC
thanks Rob, but the trousers were german grey, and if you sucessfully use tamiya for figures your a legend,
this was doen before i picked up the valljo colours i needed
Hey Alan, i have seen that multi tunic picture quite a few times, but its very helpful:)
but i have rarely seen someone use that shade of brown for a uniform, could the factor of them being on display and fading in sunlight for years have had an adverse affect on them?
this was doen before i picked up the valljo colours i needed
Hey Alan, i have seen that multi tunic picture quite a few times, but its very helpful:)
but i have rarely seen someone use that shade of brown for a uniform, could the factor of them being on display and fading in sunlight for years have had an adverse affect on them?
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Posted: Sunday, July 19, 2009 - 06:57 AM UTC
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hey, is vallejo german uniform , 920, accurate out of the bottle for the drabby green german ww2 uniform
It's mid-way between the early war 'poison' or 'police' green and the later green/brown mix, (like the polish army shade).......more useful for WWI uniforms....
Useful for mixing to get the shade your after.......but I'd recommend the 830 field grey shade, 90% accurate.....
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Posted: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 - 12:58 AM UTC
WWII German Field Grey #1 (Brett Avants) great link rudi cheers for that