Having read through the Firestorm thread and mulled over the various points raised, the works by the Brit-art artists Jake and Dinos Chapman came to mind. Maybe in conjunction with the Firestorm thread is a good time to ask other figure modellers exactly what they make of the Chapmans? Is it high art or or particularly iffy large scale diorama making(with a very fine rate of remuneration)?
If you're not familiar with them try this link for an article about one of their latest exhibitions :-
http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1184614595?bctid=1579816446
They've also created 3-d representations of Goyas Horrors of war sketches, from what i can gather all in 1/35th.
Since coming across their work, I've always wondered just what others make of them. Having read in various threads the amount of thought some will put into whether or not to portray death in a diorama, what are your thoughts on their work?
And on a lighter note, ignoring the figures quoted for their work, would they win anything at their local annual show?
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Posted: Monday, August 17, 2009 - 12:18 AM UTC
Posted: Monday, August 17, 2009 - 12:57 AM UTC
What is art? Being provocative and attracting attention?
There was a long thread here a few years ago discussing the original Hell diorama. Not many liked it then either, IIRC. Personally I don’t like it either. It doesn’t say anything to me.
No. Nothing.
If you look at any single figure ... there is no real skill or effort. Mono-colour uniforms, mono colour skin. Volkswagens don’t have any glass or headlight added. Everything is pushed out to maximise the amount of figures used, with some daft things thrown in Stephen Hawkings and the tortoise and then a few satanic clichés like the goats heads, to appeal to the "artistic" types, who wouldn’t know skill and craft if hit them in the face.
£750,000 … any member here could do it better, but it would take forever. They have taken the simple route to the “WOW factor” … size and quantity. Quality is not on show.
There was a long thread here a few years ago discussing the original Hell diorama. Not many liked it then either, IIRC. Personally I don’t like it either. It doesn’t say anything to me.
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And on a lighter note, ignoring the figures quoted for their work, would they win anything at their local annual show?
No. Nothing.
If you look at any single figure ... there is no real skill or effort. Mono-colour uniforms, mono colour skin. Volkswagens don’t have any glass or headlight added. Everything is pushed out to maximise the amount of figures used, with some daft things thrown in Stephen Hawkings and the tortoise and then a few satanic clichés like the goats heads, to appeal to the "artistic" types, who wouldn’t know skill and craft if hit them in the face.
£750,000 … any member here could do it better, but it would take forever. They have taken the simple route to the “WOW factor” … size and quantity. Quality is not on show.
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Posted: Monday, August 17, 2009 - 02:53 AM UTC
Please please let's not rehash all the arguments about the Chapman Brothers. Here is the original thread
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Posted: Monday, August 17, 2009 - 05:46 AM UTC
Thanks for the pointer Pat, managed to miss that thread entirely. Always curious as to how they would have been received. Now I know.