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M 1068 Conversion
armouredcharmer
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 07:29 AM UTC
Hi gang,I`ve just started to convert one of Tamiya`s M577`s to M1068 standard,starting with kit-bashing an Academy M113A2 to accept Tamiya`s upper hull.Externally very little differs between the kit hulls and those of the real thing and having found some excellent reference photos on Prime Portal i`m hoping to scratch build a new generator housing.
What i was wondering though is would an M1068 carry the new external fuel tanks on the rear ?,the one i`d like to do was involved in the battle of Objective Curly in Iraq,so any other info on this vehicle would be most welcome.
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 08:44 AM UTC
Nope, US M1068s do not use the external fuel cells. They still have the internal cells along each side above the tracks, just like M577s do. Sounds like a good project. I did up an M577A2 about a year ago. You can see it here. Good luck on it.
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, August 27, 2009 - 09:05 AM UTC

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having found some excellent reference photos on Prime Portal i`m hoping to scratch build a new generator housing.

To complete these pics you'll find some TM drawings that may help as well on tpub.com :
http://www.tpub.com/content/generators/TM-9-6115-664-13P/index.htm

HTH
Frenchy
Cartyb
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Posted: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 - 02:47 PM UTC
Just some more info for you as I am also looking to build the generator for a Canadian M577. Its made by a company called Goodman Ball. You can google them for some more pictures. Dimensions: Height 16.9 inches, Length 38.0 inches, Width 30.5 inches. Of course, the trick is to convert to scale, but this should help some.
Tankrider
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Posted: Thursday, September 03, 2009 - 11:29 AM UTC

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the one i`d like to do was involved in the battle of Objective Curly in Iraq,so any other info on this vehicle would be most welcome.


From my observation of pictures of Obj Curley, there were at least three M577A2s, not M1068s, present and I suspect that there were more likely four. I have seen pictures of the two tracks from the Tactical Operations Center, one from the Main Aid Station and there should have been one serving as the Fire Direction Center for TF 3-15's Mortar Platoon. I have seen pictures of the M1064s of the mortar platoon but not the FDC track.

The Aid Station track had the typical additional equipment rack found on most 2nd BCT Brads/M113s. There was a big red cross on a white background with a thermal tape cross inside of the red one.

I believe the CP tracks also had the extra racks (will confirm later) and one had a .50 caliber machine gun, on a ground mount tripod secured to the 4.2kW generator mount. There were "handrails" attached to top of the tracks. There was a large amount of baggage on the top of the CP tracks...

Again, I have not seen a Mortar FDC track but I am pretty sure one was present. One note, the Mortar tracks did not have the baggage racks but had a gun shield mounted. Camo poles were used to sling duffle bags and packs along the side of the tracks.

All tracks sported battle markings of 40 either on the side of the hull or on signs attached to the baggage racks

HTH
John C
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Posted: Friday, September 04, 2009 - 06:42 AM UTC
Danny,

Great topic for a build.
I recently kit bashed those two kits together to make a M577A1. The prime portal site supplied almost all the references I needed for the build inside and out. I used the Academy Vietnam M113 on my build but it’s the same hull as the Academy M113A2. I had a little bit of fit issues with the Tamiya upper hull on the academy hull and found myself using putty and sanding but it kinda worked.

Would be interested to know what if anything is different on a M1068

I’d be interested to watch this one.

Best of luck

W
armouredcharmer
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Posted: Friday, September 04, 2009 - 07:26 AM UTC

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the one i`d like to do was involved in the battle of Objective Curly in Iraq,so any other info on this vehicle would be most welcome.


From my observation of pictures of Obj Curley, there were at least three M577A2s, not M1068s, present and I suspect that there were more likely four. I have seen pictures of the two tracks from the Tactical Operations Center, one from the Main Aid Station and there should have been one serving as the Fire Direction Center for TF 3-15's Mortar Platoon. I have seen pictures of the M1064s of the mortar platoon but not the FDC track.

The Aid Station track had the typical additional equipment rack found on most 2nd BCT Brads/M113s. There was a big red cross on a white background with a thermal tape cross inside of the red one.

I believe the CP tracks also had the extra racks (will confirm later) and one had a .50 caliber machine gun, on a ground mount tripod secured to the 4.2kW generator mount. There were "handrails" attached to top of the tracks. There was a large amount of baggage on the top of the CP tracks...

Again, I have not seen a Mortar FDC track but I am pretty sure one was present. One note, the Mortar tracks did not have the baggage racks but had a gun shield mounted. Camo poles were used to sling duffle bags and packs along the side of the tracks.

All tracks sported battle markings of 40 either on the side of the hull or on signs attached to the baggage racks

HTH
John C


OOOPS,MY BAD !!
Thanks for putting me straight,but i`ll persevere with it coz it`s something different (note to self,DO`NT call `em Gavins as that is just plain silly )
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