I see a video showing some action of one D9 rolling on the top of a destroied cars in Iraq.
Is that true?
If yes which color I should use sand or three colors scheme?
T.Y. for any kind of info
Piero
below my IDF version
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Armoured Caterpillar D9
grunf
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 08:09 AM UTC
There is someone that know if the IDF D9 is also used by U.S.Army,
I see a video showing some action of one D9 rolling on the top of a destroied cars in Iraq.
Is that true?
If yes which color I should use sand or three colors scheme?
T.Y. for any kind of info
Piero
below my IDF version
I see a video showing some action of one D9 rolling on the top of a destroied cars in Iraq.
Is that true?
If yes which color I should use sand or three colors scheme?
T.Y. for any kind of info
Piero
below my IDF version
Maxymilian
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 08:32 AM UTC
Looks very nice, any more info about it? what scale, make etc.
grunf
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 08:41 AM UTC
T.Y. was a long battle, this is my scratchbuilt 1:35 scale D9N, now I m planning to go throw the new experience with the D9R that I suppose is used by U.S.Army.
For this I m looking for more detailed iformation if any.
Thanking you
piero
This is during a contest in Italy
category: work in progress
and this what I m doing now
http://www.smf-modellismo.net/olympus/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2365&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30
hope like it
For this I m looking for more detailed iformation if any.
Thanking you
piero
This is during a contest in Italy
category: work in progress
and this what I m doing now
http://www.smf-modellismo.net/olympus/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2365&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30
hope like it
HeavyArty
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 08:58 AM UTC
Nice looking model. I love teh VW Bug being buldozed over. Looks great.
Yes, the US Army does use the D9R and has used it in Iraq. It can be found in both sand and 3-tone NATO camo.
Yes, the US Army does use the D9R and has used it in Iraq. It can be found in both sand and 3-tone NATO camo.
newfish
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 09:05 AM UTC
Nice D9!. impressive scratch building Piero .
Did you scratch build the VW car?
.Did you scratch build the VW car?
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 09:06 AM UTC
Hi Piero
There are 5 pages devoted to US Army armored D7G and D9R dozers in Concord's "Iraq Insurgency" book (Mini Color series #7518).
Keep on the nice work !
These 2 dozers belong to the 505th Engineer Battalion in Samarra (2006)
Another one, belonging to the Marine Corps (Combat Logistics Battalion 2, 2nd Marine Logistics Group ) :
HTH
Frenchy
There are 5 pages devoted to US Army armored D7G and D9R dozers in Concord's "Iraq Insurgency" book (Mini Color series #7518).
Keep on the nice work !
These 2 dozers belong to the 505th Engineer Battalion in Samarra (2006)
Another one, belonging to the Marine Corps (Combat Logistics Battalion 2, 2nd Marine Logistics Group ) :
HTH
Frenchy
grunf
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 09:08 AM UTC
very very nice, this info make me really happy.
Thanks a lot Gino
I really like a 3.tone nato colored...this is my choice right now.
Try to post wip and look for your comment
Newfish
the car is a resin copy I do not remember from who
Frenchy
T.Y. for the info
ciao
piero
Thanks a lot Gino
I really like a 3.tone nato colored...this is my choice right now.
Try to post wip and look for your comment
Newfish
the car is a resin copy I do not remember from who
Frenchy
T.Y. for the info
ciao
piero
sgtsauer
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Posted: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 - 03:18 PM UTC
My Combat Engineer company used D9's during OIF 1. I'll have to dig my pictures out that I have.
grunf
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 07:02 AM UTC
Sir, I will apreciated if you have time to looking for.
Which colour they were painted?
thank you
piero
Which colour they were painted?
thank you
piero
ti
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 07:25 AM UTC
I remember this build. Still looking impressive as when I first saw it.
jiafangms07b3
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 07:10 PM UTC
This type of appearance original also is Israel's(?)···
http://www.vajraminiature.com/PRODUCT/35005.html
Gorizont
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Posted: Thursday, September 17, 2009 - 07:39 PM UTC
Thats a big beast!
Looks very good as a this scratchbuilt-model and I like the dio!
Tracked vehicles -without- guns are very rare as modelkits!
greetings...
Soeren
Looks very good as a this scratchbuilt-model and I like the dio!
Tracked vehicles -without- guns are very rare as modelkits!
greetings...
Soeren
grunf
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 09:54 AM UTC
Thanks for the comments,
Yes I saw the resin make pieces times ago its impressive built but also 200 dollar are impressive for me
Any way I prefere built by my self , I enjoy too much
T.Y.
ciao
piero
Yes I saw the resin make pieces times ago its impressive built but also 200 dollar are impressive for me
Any way I prefere built by my self , I enjoy too much
T.Y.
ciao
piero
retiredbee2
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 10:23 AM UTC
This is a mega armored version ,and I can see where it is a welcomed thing in Irac, but what I would like to see is a standard dozer which is more commonly used by Seabees and the Army in any other given situation. Unarmored dozers are more commonly used by the military. This monster might as well have a 105 MM gun mounted in it............ 
18Bravo
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Posted: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 11:06 AM UTC
Great scratchbuild, Piero!
I have sent a walkaround of the Case 721C as used by the Seabees to interested parties. Not sure if anything will come of it though...
You can probably use a 1/32 die-cast and detail it. Meanwhile, the Vajra D9R is coming along nicely. It's well worth the price.
I have sent a walkaround of the Case 721C as used by the Seabees to interested parties. Not sure if anything will come of it though...
You can probably use a 1/32 die-cast and detail it. Meanwhile, the Vajra D9R is coming along nicely. It's well worth the price.
grunf
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 06:52 AM UTC
I did also the front loader, but unfortunatly from IDF with so little bit armoured only a iron net on the windows.Here it is,
before paint, I really love it
NOTE:
Looking the picture from the VAJRA built I face a little mistake according to me.
From the picture of the real one, and I see many, from Isdraely force I saw that for change the vertical position of the blade there is only one piston and it is on the right side of the tractor on the left side there is only a square rod. I do not know if in the US version is different.
ciao
piero
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 08:48 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Looking the picture from the VAJRA built I face a little mistake according to me.
From the picture of the real one, and I see many, from Isdraely force I saw that for change the vertical position of the blade there is only one piston and it is on the right side of the tractor on the left side there is only a square rod. I do not know if in the US version is different.
Judging by the pics in Concord's book, it's the same with US D9s : one tilt cylinder on the right and one tilt brace on the left...
Frenchy
18Bravo
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 08:58 AM UTC
Hmmm...
Let's think about this a minute-without seeing the photos in question, it seems that a brace on one side would sort of inhibit any movement the hydraulic piston on the other side might impart. Either a piston on both sides, or a brace on both sides, but one of each? Like I said, Hmmm...
Let's think about this a minute-without seeing the photos in question, it seems that a brace on one side would sort of inhibit any movement the hydraulic piston on the other side might impart. Either a piston on both sides, or a brace on both sides, but one of each? Like I said, Hmmm...
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 09:05 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Hmmm...
Let's think about this a minute-without seeing the photos in question, it seems that a brace on one side would sort of inhibit any movement the hydraulic piston on the other side might impart. Either a piston on both sides, or a brace on both sides, but one of each? Like I said, Hmmm...
That's what I thought too at first, but I've also taken a look at some D7H walkaround pics on Primeportal to be sure :
http://www.primeportal.net/engineer/d7h_walk.htm...I've also checked out an old D7 TM I've recently bought and there's only one tilt cylinder fitted...Weird indeed !
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 09:12 AM UTC
Here are 2 D7H pics from Primeportal (these do not show the same D7H dozer but both are identical) :
The left brace :
The right cylinder :
Frenchy
The left brace :
The right cylinder :
Frenchy
grunf
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 09:13 AM UTC
We have to think in which way it work. I think that the blade position is not frequently repositioned so when you need to change becouse of the dimensions of the blade and its weight for changing the position it used the piston the bar has hole and fixed with the pin in position,
the way why not two piston? My idea is only to have one piston less, less problem
this is my idea wy
ciao
piero
the way why not two piston? My idea is only to have one piston less, less problem
this is my idea wy
ciao
piero
18Bravo
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 11:31 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Here are 2 D7H pics from Primeportal (these do not show the same D7H dozer but both are identical) :
Frenchy
To avoid ambiguity, I always like to get my own photo references when I can. These two photos ARE from the same D9R, there's no doubt as I took them myself earlier this year- there is indeed a brace on one side and a piston on the other. It still baffles me as to how this works, unless like Piero says, you have to actually unpin the brace and move it to a different hole to change the blade position, which sounds like a huge pain in the ass. I guess that's why I do what I do instead of driving a bulldozer.
Great front end loaader by the way, Piero.
And just for fun, a piston on the left:
Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, September 24, 2009 - 05:49 PM UTC
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I"d like too as well but I must say that D9R dozers (armored or not) are not really thick on the ground in my neighbourood To avoid ambiguity, I always like to get my own photo references when I can.
...The two D7Hs on Primeportal are parked side by side so it makes things a bit harder to clear up.Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, September 25, 2009 - 01:59 AM UTC
The dozer has a piston on one side and a stabilizing bar on the other to adjust the tilt of the blade. It works similar to how snowplow blades work.
18Bravo
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Posted: Friday, September 25, 2009 - 02:41 AM UTC
I'm aware that it tilts, the thing that bothered me was how one side could move, and the other (apparently) could not. Turns out, that is not the case. The brace on the left is not stationary after all, it is mounted on pivoting links, much like the barrel link on an M1911A1 (for those who like to shoot REAL guns) 
The link allows the assembly, on the gun AND the blade to pivot. The D9R comes with that setup, AND a dual setup, as shown in the last pic in my most recent post. So, from a mechanical standpoint, it makes more sense now. From a modeling standpoint, I may leave both pistons in place as it would not be incorrect.
The link allows the assembly, on the gun AND the blade to pivot. The D9R comes with that setup, AND a dual setup, as shown in the last pic in my most recent post. So, from a mechanical standpoint, it makes more sense now. From a modeling standpoint, I may leave both pistons in place as it would not be incorrect.
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