James Bella takes a look at the Preformed 15cm Shell Containers by Griffon Model.
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Griffon Preformed Shell Containersc5flies
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Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 05:06 PM UTC
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 05:35 PM UTC
James another good review of a Griffon product. I noted the height differences you refer to, have you been able to determine what the correct height is or is there variation in the real thing? I like the idea of preformed parts but that price increase carries a real sting in the tail that would put me off the product.
As you have made some of the product and despite knowing that you don't like doing comparisons, what is your opinion of the PE from Griffon as opposed to ABER or Eduard. I don't mean the product you have reviewed but the actual qualities and ease of working the PE.
As you have made some of the product and despite knowing that you don't like doing comparisons, what is your opinion of the PE from Griffon as opposed to ABER or Eduard. I don't mean the product you have reviewed but the actual qualities and ease of working the PE.
c5flies
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Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 06:40 PM UTC
Thanks for taking a look Darren. Price...yeah, a big factor to me. Even at Lucky Model, this set is $23USD compared to the 'premium' set I reviewed Here for $40. 17 bucks extra and a whole lot more
As far as the height issue, I took a few different ways to determine this....all very un-scientific. First was scale line drawings, second was surviving vehicle photos, and third was using the DML kit these are designed for. The line drawings were easy, just match up. The photos I used reference points, such as the U-shaped upper level base and how much the lower level shell container extended past it. I also used bolt/rivet spacing to see which would come closest to the real deal. The best match I came up with ended up to be the DML styrene ones....good work on Dragons part.
Hmmm...comparing different brands is tricky, as I feel they're all good! And of course it all depends on what part you're using as far as how difficult it is. I find Griffon bends with a little less effort than Aber, a little more resistance than Eduard and Voyager. Can usually get a couple of 'ooops' bends before the brass breaks. Engineering on their kits is well done to minimize an abundance of microscopic parts, and even with my limited ability I can use about 95% of the big kits.
As far as the height issue, I took a few different ways to determine this....all very un-scientific. First was scale line drawings, second was surviving vehicle photos, and third was using the DML kit these are designed for. The line drawings were easy, just match up. The photos I used reference points, such as the U-shaped upper level base and how much the lower level shell container extended past it. I also used bolt/rivet spacing to see which would come closest to the real deal. The best match I came up with ended up to be the DML styrene ones....good work on Dragons part.
Hmmm...comparing different brands is tricky, as I feel they're all good! And of course it all depends on what part you're using as far as how difficult it is. I find Griffon bends with a little less effort than Aber, a little more resistance than Eduard and Voyager. Can usually get a couple of 'ooops' bends before the brass breaks. Engineering on their kits is well done to minimize an abundance of microscopic parts, and even with my limited ability I can use about 95% of the big kits.
Posted: Saturday, September 26, 2009 - 08:19 PM UTC
Thanks James that does help.