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Tony
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Female Tank Crew Members
Tonyfr
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2009 - 08:31 AM UTC
I was on the Navydads website and one of the fathers was complaining that the US Navy is considering letting females serve on submarines. Doing some back ground work, I ran across this article ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2334696/posts )about a female tank gunner from Norway. I guess I never thought about it but does the US or any other countries permit females a part of their tank crews?
I was not really sure where to post this question. Hopefully this was the right spot.
Tony
edit: to fix url
I was not really sure where to post this question. Hopefully this was the right spot.
Tony
edit: to fix url
Tonyfr
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2009 - 09:15 AM UTC
I guess I should googled more. According the internet (which we know is only 100% accurate 
) says Russia had female tank crew members. I actually found 1/35 figures but none of them are modern.
) says Russia had female tank crew members. I actually found 1/35 figures but none of them are modern. 
HeavyArty
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2009 - 10:09 AM UTC
I know the US doesn't allow females to be tankers. Don't think Brittain does either. No idea on other countries.
18Bravo
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2009 - 10:15 AM UTC
While there are none that I know of in the IDF, they sure have some hot looking armor instructors.
chnoone
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2009 - 11:02 AM UTC
So far I have seen the Dutch let their female soldiers drive tanks, being Leo2, Cheetah, YPR etc..
I have also seen female loaders on German Leo2, if both countries actually let them let the go to war I don‘t know.
Haven‘t noticed any female TC though.
Christopher
I have also seen female loaders on German Leo2, if both countries actually let them let the go to war I don‘t know.
Haven‘t noticed any female TC though.
Christopher
gcdavidson
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2009 - 03:19 PM UTC
Canada has had female Combat Arms soldiers since around 1988. They are about as rare as male nurses.
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Friday, October 09, 2009 - 03:59 PM UTC
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Canada has had female Combat Arms soldiers since around 1988. They are about as rare as male nurses.
100% correct.....there have been quite a few Canadian female armoured crew members.....non-commissioned and commissioned.
Dangeroo
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 12:19 AM UTC
The Swiss Army has been open to females in all functions for a few years. I personally know there are some female M109 crewmembers. There are not many women in the Swiss army though as it is compulsory for men and voluntary for women...
Cheerio!
Stef
Cheerio!
Stef
AKirchhoff
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 02:27 AM UTC
Hi!
Yes, there are female tank crew members in Germany, have seen them on Leopard2A6, every position including commander. In Germany, females are on a contract for several years only, not as conscripts. Also I have seen them in the Danish Army, Leopard and MLRS.
Andreas
Yes, there are female tank crew members in Germany, have seen them on Leopard2A6, every position including commander. In Germany, females are on a contract for several years only, not as conscripts. Also I have seen them in the Danish Army, Leopard and MLRS.
Andreas
Splinty2001
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 02:38 AM UTC
You won't find any female tankers in the U.S. Army, but there some operating armored ambulances (M113A3 etc.) and wreckers (M88A1/2 etc.) at the BCT level. 
UncaBret
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 09:06 AM UTC
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This is obviously NOT a Plus Model figure!
gcdavidson
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 09:56 AM UTC
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This is obviously NOT a Plus Model figure!
Also appears that the tank's air conditioning system is in fine working order.
jjumbo
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 10:15 AM UTC
It wasn't unusual for Russian women to be in WW II combat units.
Snipers, tank drivers and pilots for example.
How about working with your wife in an SPG ?
Near the bottom of this site is a photo of a Russian husband and wife that crewed an ISU-122 Assault Gun.
The wife was the commander, her husband was the driver.
Flames of War
Cheers
jjumbo
Snipers, tank drivers and pilots for example.
How about working with your wife in an SPG ?
Near the bottom of this site is a photo of a Russian husband and wife that crewed an ISU-122 Assault Gun.
The wife was the commander, her husband was the driver.
Flames of War
Cheers
jjumbo
panzerIV
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Posted: Saturday, October 10, 2009 - 10:42 AM UTC
hey guys
1 thing i have seen is women in the british army serving on the british AS90 SPG gun but not sure if youd consider this to be working in a tank crew if you understand how i mean??
tony
1 thing i have seen is women in the british army serving on the british AS90 SPG gun but not sure if youd consider this to be working in a tank crew if you understand how i mean??
tony
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Posted: Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 05:53 AM UTC
Well there are no tanks as such in the Irish Defence Forces, its mostly Armoured cars and 8x8 APC's etc etc but we have had female crews many years now including on the 20, 60 and 90mm Panhard AML's.
This is including overseas operations such as in our UN mission in Liberia which ended successfully two years ago. We also field female soldiers alongside their male counterparts in frontline service including infantry roles..
This is including overseas operations such as in our UN mission in Liberia which ended successfully two years ago. We also field female soldiers alongside their male counterparts in frontline service including infantry roles..
RKinsella
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Posted: Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 06:09 AM UTC
..here's a photo. Note the wrist watch on crew person on left of turret. Liberia 2005
tommytanker
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Posted: Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 02:28 PM UTC
Hi,
It's bad enough to be in the field for two weeks (or more) in a steel can Can you imagine that with a female that hits that "time of the month!". Did I mention thats no showers and 100+degree heat OR -10degree cold!!!!!!! Also the females that can break track, clean gun tubes etc are few and far between (I'm saying that there are none just in the minority!). Female tankers, Tanks but no tanks!!!!!
Good Hunting,
Tommytanker
It's bad enough to be in the field for two weeks (or more) in a steel can Can you imagine that with a female that hits that "time of the month!". Did I mention thats no showers and 100+degree heat OR -10degree cold!!!!!!! Also the females that can break track, clean gun tubes etc are few and far between (I'm saying that there are none just in the minority!). Female tankers, Tanks but no tanks!!!!!
Good Hunting,
Tommytanker
gcdavidson
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Posted: Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 03:14 PM UTC
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..here's a photo. Note the wrist watch on crew person on left of turret. Liberia 2005
Not tracking you... what about the watch?
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 05:29 PM UTC
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Hi,
It's bad enough to be in the field for two weeks (or more) in a steel can Can you imagine that with a female that hits that "time of the month!". Did I mention thats no showers and 100+degree heat OR -10degree cold!!!!!!! Also the females that can break track, clean gun tubes etc are few and far between (I'm saying that there are none just in the minority!). Female tankers, Tanks but no tanks!!!!!
Good Hunting,
Tommytanker
Why because guys have perfect hygiene, are cleaner than women in the field, and don't have seriously bad attitudes because they haven't "gotten any"? Good grief.....Welcome to the 21st Century.
I have seen plenty of male soldiers who were out of shape and couldn't lift the breech block out of a tank turret by themselves or change a road wheel without a helping hand.....not to mention being drop dead exhausted on average PT runs.
-10 degrees cold?...hahahaha.....OMG OH NO!!!!......try operating a tank in -50 degrees with the wind chill and sleeping on the back deck for a month......you don't care what gender is next to you for body heat.
LeoCmdr
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Posted: Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 05:38 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Text..here's a photo. Note the wrist watch on crew person on left of turret. Liberia 2005
Not tracking you... what about the watch?
Apparently women prefer to wear a wrist watch on their right wrist.....modern day folklore if you ask me.....don't people just wear them on the wrist opposite of their dominant hand?
jon_a_its
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Posted: Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 10:20 PM UTC
eh?
I'm left-handed, & male, straight, & wore my watch on the right wrist because I often had my hand stuffed in a computer.
I now dispense with a watch entirely, as I carry a phone or two & stream radio on my pc at work.
Don't think gender, orientation or handedness has anything to do with it personally.
Hmm, I know the German forces issue HAIRNETS to their MALE & female soldiers, so 'could be' a mis-identification still? (g)
I'm left-handed, & male, straight, & wore my watch on the right wrist because I often had my hand stuffed in a computer.
I now dispense with a watch entirely, as I carry a phone or two & stream radio on my pc at work.
Don't think gender, orientation or handedness has anything to do with it personally.
Hmm, I know the German forces issue HAIRNETS to their MALE & female soldiers, so 'could be' a mis-identification still? (g)
endrju007
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Posted: Sunday, October 11, 2009 - 10:41 PM UTC
Well… I’m sure I would allow HER to drive in my tank…
Dutchy3RTR
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Posted: Monday, October 12, 2009 - 03:39 AM UTC
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Well… I’m sure I would allow HER to drive in my tank…
As an ex-tankie, all I can say is it would be VERY distracting to have her as my gunner when I was commanding.
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Posted: Monday, October 12, 2009 - 04:03 AM UTC
A watch was always worn on the left wrist because the winder is always on the the right of the watch as more people are right handed (strangely this also applies to pocket watches), as watches became dominated by watches that don't need winding they are now worn wherever a person is happiest with.
RKinsella
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Posted: Monday, October 12, 2009 - 04:11 AM UTC
OK guys I agree with the watch statements but I'd love to show another photo of that crew person but me thinks it might not be appropriate now with earlier comments 
..In regard to moaning troops, I know a larger percentage of guys who piss and moan more than some woman out in the field
..With all due respect some of the finer officers I know are of the fairer sex
..In regard to moaning troops, I know a larger percentage of guys who piss and moan more than some woman out in the field
..With all due respect some of the finer officers I know are of the fairer sex
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