Hi guys,
What do you use as a substitute for MIG pigments? They're not quite cheap and was thinking maybe there is a replacement for them.
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MIG pigments subtitute?
panzer_fan
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 04:21 AM UTC
GunTruck
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 05:31 AM UTC
At the risk of sounding cynical - why not use the old tried and true - pastels.
There is no mystery in using them to get subtle effects - just practice and patience.
Gunnie
There is no mystery in using them to get subtle effects - just practice and patience.
Gunnie
scoccia
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 05:55 AM UTC
Panzer_Fan, I use pigments I buy at local art crafts stores per color a fraction of the cost of a 25 ml MIG's pigments jar. They come in a lot of colours that you can further mix to get almost infinite shades. I don't know how much MIG's pigments cost, but I know that for 250 grams of raw pigments I spend something like 2 Euros/USD making them far a lot cheaper than pastels too, if you're on a budget. For sure also the Pastel's work great as Gunnie correctly stated before...
Ciao
Ciao
panzer_fan
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 07:03 AM UTC
Thank you guys for your help. So basically, I just have to go to any arts store and ask them for pigments? I am asking because I haven't dealt with pigments before.
ModlrMike
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 08:03 AM UTC
At the low end of the market you might try Michaels. At the high end, an artist supply store. We have both in Edmonton, and while there is some overlap, the artist supply store has some of the more specialised products.
capnjock
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 09:23 AM UTC
I bought a set of earth color pastels from an art store years ago and I have not even begun to use them up. So, cost is relative. I paid twenty-five dollars for them and I do not think I will out last the set. I am also able to buy individual sticks for the set if I have to at a very reasonable rate. Works for me.
capnjock
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tankshack
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 09:55 AM UTC
Hey there,
If you want a "substitute", you can also try,
Bragdon Enterprises .
I have used their products for a few years now and I can say that I am VERY impressed. The thing that's different about this product is that they hold up better due to a :"secret" ingredient that helps the pigments stick to the model.
Here's a quote from their website -
If you want to see this stuff in action, let me know. I've got lots of pics.
Later,
Tim
If you want a "substitute", you can also try,
Bragdon Enterprises .
I have used their products for a few years now and I can say that I am VERY impressed. The thing that's different about this product is that they hold up better due to a :"secret" ingredient that helps the pigments stick to the model.
Here's a quote from their website -
Quoted Text
WEATHER SYSTEM instant rust and weather for model aging
QTY.
This weathering powder will adhere to any non-glossy
surface. It is NOT chalk. One quick step gives a very
realistic rusty, dusty or sooty surface - instantly.
No drying or curing is necessary. Use sparingly; a
little goes a long way. This product is made from real
rust and other weathering agents that have been ball
milled to a particle size over 100 times finer than
chalk and blended with a pressure sensitive, dry
adhesive. Self adhesive to most surfaces.
Nonmagnetic and Nontoxic.
If you want to see this stuff in action, let me know. I've got lots of pics.
Later,
Tim
Tankera1
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Posted: Saturday, July 12, 2003 - 11:06 AM UTC
I have always used pastels, they seem to work well for most situations. I do intend to try the pigments in the future however.
panzer_fan
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Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 12:57 AM UTC
Thanks again guys for all your help. I'll head to the nearest arts store and see what I can get from there.
ModlrMike
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Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 11:19 AM UTC
I just remembered these pigments available from Lee Valley Tools:
Rare Earth Pigments
They're made to be used with many products. I think they will work for modeling. You might have to use some hairspray to make them stick, but maybe not.
At $23.95 for 11 different pigments, it looks like a good buy.
Rare Earth Pigments
They're made to be used with many products. I think they will work for modeling. You might have to use some hairspray to make them stick, but maybe not.
At $23.95 for 11 different pigments, it looks like a good buy.
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