Nordrhein-Westfalen, Germany
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Posted: Monday, October 26, 2009 - 04:39 PM UTC
In a German forum I found this:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/240281/message/1256563984/Neues+von+Hobby+Boss The text of Thomas Hartwig reads:
"Just now the following pictures reached me of masters of two interesting new kits which are called to be from Hobby Boss.
Sure, the slat as PE ist more sophisticated and more realistic - but this way at least everybody can build it."
..and I own the Eduard PE Set and more, typical!
Harald
Illinois, United States
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Posted: Monday, October 26, 2009 - 05:00 PM UTC
Gasp!
I would think the other bigger companies like Tamiya would be the first to include slat armor. I wonder how this will look when the production run comes to fruition, i.e. slat armor being way to thick
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England - East Anglia, United Kingdom
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Posted: Monday, October 26, 2009 - 10:40 PM UTC
I was under the impression Trumpeter were releasing the Chally with slat armor. I also believe i read somewhere they were planning on doing some leopard variants as well so im slightly confused by this news. Never the less whoevers releasing it, the leo slat looks damn good!
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Quebec, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 01:43 AM UTC
We don't really know all the ramifications between HobbyBoss and Trumpeter but my guess would be the Challenger from Trumpeter and the Leo 2 from HobbyBoss.
Trumpeter already have a few Challenger in his catalog and HobbyBoss a few Leopard 2 afterall. Unless they decided to share their molds?
New Brunswick, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 03:23 AM UTC
Common misconception among modelers is that Hobby Boss and Trumpeter are the same company....which is simply not true.
Both companies are in the same industrial park/complex, both companies use the same mold design company for their kits, but that is where the similarity and confusion is.
To further complicate matters, the company that designs and cuts the molds for both companies, is also the parent company of Trumpeter.
This is why Hobby Boss kits look similar to Trumpeter.
Do they share their molds and design team? Perhaps....but they aren't the same company like Dragon and Cyber Hobby is. Completely separate companies.
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Idaho, United States
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 04:10 AM UTC
That slat armor just looks good. I wonder how fragile it would be when time came to assemble.
Al Qahirah, Egypt / لعربية
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 07:00 AM UTC
The slat on that Leo, although a little on the thick side, looks good enough to me.
I hope this leads them to make the slat for the Stryker this way. It would solve the problem for a lot of modellers who can't handle the PE slat.
Hisham
Anhui, China / 简体
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 03:12 PM UTC
the first is Trumpeter 01522 Challenger-2 Enhanced Armour
the secound is Hobbyboss 82458 Leopard 2A6M CAN
Newfoundland, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 03:33 PM UTC
Chally good
Leo not so good
Anhui, China / 简体
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 03:54 PM UTC
Leo just a handmaster, It will have new turret, new hull, new slat armour.....................
Alberta, Canada
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 04:16 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Leo just a handmaster, It will have new turret, new hull, new slat armour.....................
Good to hear.
Hobby Boss should consider updating and improving their Danish Leopard 2A5DK kit to the Afghanistan deployed version with the correct modifications and the slat armour as well.
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 04:24 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Sure, the slat as PE ist more sophisticated and more realistic - but this way at least everybody can build it."
Presumably that is a reference to kit costs? Would it
really increase the price of the kit
that much for the manufacturer to simply include PE slat armour? PE (and metal barrels) seem almost common place in kits these days.
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Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 07:42 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Quoted Text
Sure, the slat as PE ist more sophisticated and more realistic - but this way at least everybody can build it."
Presumably that is a reference to kit costs? .
I think it's rather a reference to the skill level required to build PE slats.
Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz
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Warszawa, Poland
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 07:44 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Leo just a handmaster, It will have new turret, new hull, new slat armour.....................
Hopefully the anti-slip coating will be reduced to a correct thin appearance.
Pawel
Pawel "Vodnik" Krupowicz
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Victoria, Australia
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Posted: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 - 07:52 PM UTC
Quoted Text
I think it's rather a reference to the skill level required to build PE slats.
Ah, ok, fair enough
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Newfoundland, Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 01:10 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Leo just a handmaster, It will have new turret, new hull, new slat armour.....................
Cool I'll buy it. I will be building the Challenger for sure.
Canada
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Posted: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 - 03:42 AM UTC
It will be terrific to get the Canadian Leo in styrene with that pretty party skirt. I realize the slats appear too thick to scale but there are a great many of us awaiting styrene slats. Either or both of these companies will figure it out and get it to market hopefully soon.
