How would I go about making 1/35 scale pumpkins? My idea, have men on top of a
panzer IV carving pumpkins. Or didn't they do that?

Thanks!

~Chip :-)

Carving pumpkins for Halloween is a typical American tradition and Halloween was not even celebrated here in Europe.

I know that my parents never heard of Halloween until we moved to the US in '75

So, I won't say that in Europe people did not carve pumpkins as a hobby, but it is unlikely.
I can't recall any European special day that involves carved pumpkins



Just my 2 cents

I got to agree with Ronny here.... I've never seen or heard about Europeans carving pumpkins in the wwII years either.

maybe they was american spys who stole uniforms and a panzer IV
and the missed home and started carving pumpkins?

its like if you like the idea why not built it?

everyone carved a pumkin in his life

or smashed one

so why does it matter if its historically correct aslong as you like the idea
cause you are the one that has 2 look @ it and have fun building it
but thats just my opinion

hi

well actually it's true in a way what yo guys said, but holoween are 2 diffrent middleages stories .... but i can't remember if they where celebrated in europe

i must say that my grandfather when he was young carved faces in beets (suikbieten), i don't kow if they did that for a special raison.

greetings

dmd

Try the craft section at Wal-Mart or Michael's or Hobby Lobby. You can find all types of miniature fruits and veggies there used to make centerpieces and other decorative motiffs. The only problem is that these things may be seasonal.

Patrick

Halloween was celebrated by europeans. But I dont know about the pumpkins. Halloween originates from an early pagan festival. Old hallows eve.
You could still have them scooping out pumpkins, i think they would have eaten anything they could get there hands on to suplement their rations.

Steffen is right !! In the low countries (Belgium and The Netherlands) people used to carve sugarpees for decoration and fun in the old days.

hi

about the diffrent explenations about the birth of holoween, we read at school that it's an old story about a knight called lord Halowijn/ halewijn etc etc , a looter and barbaric man, who was killed by a virgin princes who he got by blackmailing here father.

sorry to say she's a virgin but that's actually the clue of the whole story, but to make it short she decapitate his head and went back home with it

wich was popular by kelts and other tribes to keep heads as a symbol but was forbitten by church
for those who are interested there are 4 songs about it and actually there's a whole book about lord halowijn and his crew. he used to be a common butthead in a knight order etc etc just like the common mafia today

oké have fun with it

dmd

hi about those there a diffrent kinds of and seizes :-)

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I can't comment on the use of pumpkins as decoration, but how about having most of the crew cleaning them out and cutting them up for a big pot of soup and one one bozo carving a face into his pumpkin...

I also agree with the idea of looking at a craft store ( Michaels, Joannes, Hobby Lobby..whatever) for them in the jewelry , centerpiece, or nick nack aisle..

If all else fails, fimo comes in orange and green.

I would never have believed it possible, but I made a pretty good about 120mm Coleman white gas Peak 1 stove while listening ( or not) to some lady who was talking to the rest of us teachers about grief counselling and how having something in your hands dunring a tough conversation made things easier...

-I know that previous sentence is an abortion of grammar and I'm a teacher, but so what?? It's summer vacation and I'm just sitting around in the sun drinking boat drinks, working on my tan... since we all know that teachers have FREE time in the summer. HAH! -grin-

Mike

hi

the i not of european descent actually nor chickens and cats

greetings

dmd

Thanks guys, I would love to sit around and talk European history all day , but you still never answered my original question. Thanks!!

~CHIp

Use Sculpy or Fimo clay. Make an orange ball of the appropriate size, detail with bits of green clay and then bake them in the oven. A small packet of clay is only a couple of buck. Experiment and have fun.

Epoxy putty, Chip. Check the plumbers supply section at Lowes or Home Depot. Good idea, by the way. Maybe a Sherman crew instead of Germans.

Shaun

"Carving pumpkins for Halloween is a typical American tradition and Halloween was not even celebrated here in Europe!"
Halloween has always been celebrated in ireland. But since I moved to sweden I see it becoming more and more popular here now as well .... but is the American version.

From my memory halloween is a pagan feast. Hallows eve was the last day for reaping. All crops and wild fruits were to be gathered by this day or else left to the dead. Thats why Europeans celebrated the gathering of the crop with seasonal fruits etc. (Christianity kept the same date and celebrated all souls day ....... to pray for the dead.)

If pumpkins are a crop in this area it is likely the pumpkin could have been used as well, ....why not have Germans carving it out. Another idea would be to have Germans ransacking an area where American soldiers had retreated from and they are bewildered at the pumpkins!

Use modeling clay to fashion them. Roll a small pea-sized piece between your two palms to form a sphere. Than gently squeeze the ball to form an oblong sphere. Using a knife, carve a few vertical lines from the top center toward the bottom center.
Go into your backyard and find a little thin twig, cut it to size and gently press it into the top of the pumpkin to make the stem. Paint it orangery.

OK y'all, here's a quick Pumpkin History Lesson:

References to pumpkins date back many centuries. The name pumpkin originated from the Greek word for "large melon" which is "pepon." "Pepon" was nasalized by the French into "pompon." The English changed "pompon" to "Pumpion." Shakespeare referred to the "pumpion" in his Merry Wives of Windsor. American colonists changed "pumpion" into "pumpkin." The "pumpkin" is referred to in The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, Peter, Peter, Pumpkin Eater and Cinderella.

Native Americans dried strips of pumpkin and wove them into mats. They also roasted long strips of pumpkin on the open fire and ate them. The origin of pumpkin pie occurred when the colonists sliced off the pumpkin top, removed the seeds, and filled the insides with milk, spices and honey. The pumpkin was then baked in hot ashes.

History of the Jack-o-Lantern:
People have been making jack-o-lanterns at Halloween for centuries. The practice originated from an Irish myth about a man nicknamed "Stingy Jack." According to the story, Stingy Jack invited the Devil to have a drink with him. True to his name, Stingy Jack didn't want to pay for his drink, so he convinced the Devil to turn himself into a coin that Jack could use to buy their drinks. Once the Devil did so, Jack decided to keep the money and put it into his pocket next to a silver cross, which prevented the Devil from changing back into his original form. Jack eventually freed the Devil, under the condition that he would not bother Jack for one year and that, should Jack die, he would not claim his soul. The next year, Jack again tricked the Devil into climbing into a tree to pick a piece of fruit. While he was up in the tree, Jack carved a sign of the cross into the tree's bark so that the Devil could not come down until the Devil promised Jack not to bother him for ten more years.

Soon after, Jack died. As the legend goes, God would not allow such an unsavory figure into heaven. The Devil, upset by the trick Jack had played on him and keeping his word not to claim his soul, would not allow Jack into hell. He sent Jack off into the dark night with only a burning coal to light his way. Jack put the coal into a carved out turnip and has been roaming the Earth with it ever since. The Irish began to refer to this ghostly figure as "Jack of the Lantern," and then, simply "Jack O'Lantern."

In Ireland and Scotland, people began to make their own versions of Jack’s lanterns by carving scary faces into turnips or potatoes and placing them into windows or near doors to frighten away Stingy Jack and other wandering evil spirits. In England, large beets are used. Immigrants from these countries brought the jack o’lantern tradition with them when they came to the United States. They soon found that pumpkins, a fruit native to America, make perfect jack o’lanterns.

lol kencelot all the man wanted 2 know was how to make a pumpkin

but thanx for the history lesson yr a teacher or you just have

good google skills?

hi

ik vind mijn verklarig eigenlijk veel beter , niet ??

so mayby you can find some pupkins in scale 1/35, have fun with it

greetzz

dmd

instead of pumpkins why not use turnips we used to see faces in turnips when i was a lad back in the mist of time well bout 20 years ago I'm only 28 really! :-) it'd be a more realist setting using the turnips as halloween is taken from all hallows eve were ther pagans would vist the graves of the dead as once a year their sprits were allowed to room for a day
(think thats right) but heyit's your dio bulid for you no one else

People actually build 1/35 pumpkins, is that a common thing in modelling #:-)

Love the discussion of the holiday - good reading

Here are a couple of thoughts on making them
- as a few people mentioned Sculpy, Fimo and other 'curing clay' or milliput would be one option.
- Second would be to mold them in resin - check out the article on Pouring Resin inexpensivly in the features section.

Forget about the "purists". If you want soldiers carving a pumpkin, do it! During WWII Italians had to eat a pumpkin a day. American prisoners of war had to eat two!
Use Sculpy or any other bakable clay, or even use an air drying clay. Be careful as some clays never dry. Carve your shape and bake (Sculpey) or air-dry. The air-dry clays shrink about 5-10%, the Sculpey shrinks about 2%.
A tip to all. If you use clay and it breaks because of shape, or size, etc., press in some nylon screen material to act like "rebar" in concrete. I finally was able to make a long rectangular piece that was very thin in the middle, without it breaking, when I went to the screen method.
While your playing with the clay, make some stumps, solid and hollow, and have fun.
Sealhead

yes thats true, but it have to be in the christmas period , so your dio have to be a winterdio

ciao gary

it doesnt always snow during x mas....