Recently, I’ve been combining my two favorite hobbies, namely model trains and model armor, by scratch building 1:64 scale (‘S’-scale) DODX (Department of Defense Railroad) flatcars with 1:72 military loads.
http://k43.pbase.com/g6/84/648584/2/76444155.1KfnKEfC.jpg
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/rsList.aspx?id=DODX
The difference between 1:72 and 1:64 is so slight that it’s almost impossible to notice the difference.
Anyway, while looking for additional prototype pictures of DODX equipment and loads, I stumbled upon the following photo of a red “medium” DODX flatcar (DODX Green=heavy, Red=medium, Yellow=light) transporting a gutted M1 Abrams.
http://www.railroadforums.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/52258
Since I can see no obvious battle damage on this tank, I’m wondering how exactly how this tank might have been so thoroughly “gutted”.
One idea I had was that this tank is being rebuilt and that it was stripped at one location and was being transported to another location for the rebuild when the picture was taken. That being said, there’s quite a lot of rust on this hull and I wouldn’t think that the technicians doing the rebuild would want to let a tank they’re working on get that bad.
I’d definitely be interested in hearing any ideas you might have…
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What would cause this “damage” to an M1Abrams
DUKWsinarow
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:12 AM UTC
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:17 AM UTC
Looks to me like it has been sand blasted down to bare metal and is in the process of rebuild/ transport to another facility and a light coat of surface rust has built up on it.
ChillyMedic
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:36 AM UTC
Its on its way for a rebuild. I forget exactly where the plants are (deep south territory). Anyway, the tanks needing a rebuild start off at plant A, get stripped down to their nuts and bolts and then flat cared to plant B where they reassemble them all shiny and new. National Geographic TV aired a documentary about it (Extreme Machines I think?). Really cool stuff.
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 07:28 AM UTC
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Its on its way for a rebuild. I forget exactly where the plants are (deep south territory). Anyway, the tanks needing a rebuild start off at plant A, get stripped down to their nuts and bolts and then flat cared to plant B where they reassemble them all shiny and new. National Geographic TV aired a documentary about it (Extreme Machines I think?). Really cool stuff.
I remember seeing that - totally awesome !.I especially liked the part where they hung a complete stripped-down hull up to put it in a sandblasting chamber,i could not believe that you could do it to something that big.
SgtWilhite
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 07:38 AM UTC
If I'm not mistaken the M1's are rebuilt in Anniston Army Depot in Anniston, Alabama.
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Violetrock
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If I'm not mistaken the M1's are rebuilt in Anniston Army Depot in Anniston, Alabama.
Isn´t Anniston the place where the M1 gets dismantled and Lima, Ohio is the place where they get rebuilt?
calvin_ng
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 09:53 AM UTC
Neinmonia whats wrong with you? how come every conversation you chime in on involves negative comments? If you want to B.S take it some where else. Why dont you you show some models ( if you built any) and quit with the trolling? Making fun of someones airforce? immature..... I dont think you would be so nice if someone made fun of your airforce
chefchris
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 10:07 AM UTC
Calvin,
I would like to second your sentiments. I think this is a perfect example of why there is a "Hide User" selection on the tool bar. Let's see....... No real name, no real info on his profile, acid on the tongue, and I'm guessing he's fairly young and full of piss and vinegar (or something along those lines). I'm sure he'll respond intelligently to this post......
Chris
I would like to second your sentiments. I think this is a perfect example of why there is a "Hide User" selection on the tool bar. Let's see....... No real name, no real info on his profile, acid on the tongue, and I'm guessing he's fairly young and full of piss and vinegar (or something along those lines). I'm sure he'll respond intelligently to this post......
Chris
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DUKWsinarow
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:23 PM UTC
Thank you…
Once I finish the “finished” and ‘up-armored’ tanks and HMMWV’s, I’m thinking that I could make a few flatcars of “stripped” tank hulls. This would allow me to have one train pull the hulls to one of the factories on the club layout and then pull the finished tanks out at a later time (simulating the completion of the work on the tanks).
Since, to complete a single car, I need to scratch build the flatcar itself and then build anywhere from four HMMWV’s, to 2 M1A2 Abrams per car, it’d be a while before I would be finished with this project and be able to move on to the next one (presumably the sandblasted tank hulls).
Once I finish the “finished” and ‘up-armored’ tanks and HMMWV’s, I’m thinking that I could make a few flatcars of “stripped” tank hulls. This would allow me to have one train pull the hulls to one of the factories on the club layout and then pull the finished tanks out at a later time (simulating the completion of the work on the tanks).
Since, to complete a single car, I need to scratch build the flatcar itself and then build anywhere from four HMMWV’s, to 2 M1A2 Abrams per car, it’d be a while before I would be finished with this project and be able to move on to the next one (presumably the sandblasted tank hulls).
keenan
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 12:48 PM UTC
I would just like to add one comment without stepping on any toes but they do not sand blast the hulls, the steel shot blast them. They have one of largest spinner hanger shot machines in the world.
Shaun
/Trust me, I work in a foundry
//Slip and almost fall in steel shot from shot blast machines daily
///Don't tell IOASHA
Shaun
/Trust me, I work in a foundry
//Slip and almost fall in steel shot from shot blast machines daily
///Don't tell IOASHA
HeavyArty
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:43 PM UTC
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I would just like to add one comment without stepping on any toes but they do not sand blast the hulls, the steel shot blast them. They have one of largest spinner hanger shot machines in the world.
Shaun
/Trust me, I work in a foundry
//Slip and almost fall in steel shot from shot blast machines daily
///Don't tell IOASHA
You are right of course. I saw the show on Tank Overhall or whatever it was where they showed the verticle shot chamber as well. Typo on my part. Thanks for the clarification.
Tankrider
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Posted: Thursday, November 05, 2009 - 01:47 PM UTC
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Quoted TextIf I'm not mistaken the M1's are rebuilt in Anniston Army Depot in Anniston, Alabama.
Isn´t Anniston the place where the M1 gets dismantled and Lima, Ohio is the place where they get rebuilt?
Thomas,
You are correct. They strip them down to basic components at Anniston, ship the hulls & turrets to Lima Tank Plant for rebuilding into either M1A1AIMs or M1A2SEPs. I have also seen the Hulls/Turrets moved by flatbed trucks. Impressive.
John
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Posted: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 - 02:02 PM UTC
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also being rebuilt in ohio someplaceIf I'm not mistaken the M1's are rebuilt in Anniston Army Depot in Anniston, Alabama.
matt
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Posted: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 01:42 AM UTC
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I would just like to add one comment without stepping on any toes but they do not sand blast the hulls, the steel shot blast them. They have one of largest spinner hanger shot machines in the world.
Shaun
/Trust me, I work in a foundry
//Slip and almost fall in steel shot from shot blast machines daily
///Don't tell IOASHA
I LOOOVE walking by the shot blast booth here too..... soo much fun..... NOT
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Quoted Textalso being rebuilt in ohio someplaceIf I'm not mistaken the M1's are rebuilt in Anniston Army Depot in Anniston, Alabama.
As John mentioned it's Lima, Ohio..........
SgtWilhite
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Posted: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 07:45 AM UTC
Thank you, I stand corrected.
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