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Answers to questions about the right paint scheme or tips for the right effect.
Can someone give me the G2 on airbrushes?
TimberWolf
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California, United States
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Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 06:23 PM UTC
Im gona get my first airbrush soon and Im wondering what is a good one to get,
for a newbie like me :-)
I heard that the Azteck 340, or 3 something that came in a wooden case was a good one.
All Info is appreciated
caanbash
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Ankara, Turkey / Türkçe
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Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 06:54 PM UTC
I have an Aztek A4709 set. I used to have a metal body airbrush but I am extremely satisfied with this A4709 set, for a couple of reasons. Let me compare them briefly:

First, it is lightweight and extremely easy to operate. The metal body airbrushes are heavy. Second, as the air hose is attached to the body from back, it does not interrupt you when you are working on a project, unlike most of the other airbrushes with hose being attached to the body at the point where you hold the body. What is really impressive about the Aztek system of seperate nozzles is that you are free to change nozlles in the middle of a work, without even cleaning the airbrush, which is not the case for the conventional airbrush system, in which you have to disassamble the whole thing, clean everything and reload. You can always find cheap replacement parts for this airbrush. The set contains abundant accessories including 6 nozzles and lots of paint cups and jars. All you need to have is a propellant or a compressor for air when you get this one. The box is quite an artwork, by the way.

This set might seem expensive, but believe me I used it and it is worth the money. If you can not afford it, go for a cheaper set with the same model, or a different model. I strongly advise you to get an Aztek (no that I work for Aztek or I am in love with it, but because I used both systems and had the chance to compare the output), but be careful to get a double action system, which lets you adjust the air flow and paint flow seperately. I don't reccommend a single action, they are quite amateur. I do not think that getting a highly professional model as a first airbrush would do harm, you can get used to it in no time.

Go and see the Aztek web page, you can make selection from there:
[url=http://www.testors.com/catalog_item.asp?itemNbr=50]
zer0_co0l
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Limburg, Netherlands
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Posted: Sunday, July 13, 2003 - 08:20 PM UTC
I use a badger 150 with fine needle and fine nozzle

I love my airbrush because I can spray all paints with it because its full metal
all the parts I want I can get seperate from the smallest spring 2 well everything

I worked with an aztek gun put I like to have something of metal in my hand
and the new badger series are very well balanced
so its just great
but thats my opinion
maybe you have a friend who uses an airbrush try 2 use it their and get the feeling
and once you get an airbrush you never wanna go back

TimberWolf
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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 01:54 PM UTC
Aztek A4709, yeah thats the right name for the one im thinking of!
Any one else have this airbrush, all opinions are welcomed.
Kencelot
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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 02:14 PM UTC
The Aztek A4709 is the one I've used for a couple of years now and I love it.
Very simple to use for beginners to more advanced users. Easy to clean, it's both a single and dual action AB. The tips or nozzles can be changed on the fly - no need to remove a long needle from the AB's body to change spray patterns.
Can't go wrong.

m1garand
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Posted: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 05:53 PM UTC

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The Aztek A4709 is the one I've used for a couple of years now and I love it.
Very simple to use for beginners to more advanced users. Easy to clean, it's both a single and dual action AB. The tips or nozzles can be changed on the fly - no need to remove a long needle from the AB's body to change spray patterns.
Can't go wrong.




Same here. And got mine for $89 at Model Expo
screamingeagle
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Posted: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 04:08 AM UTC
I own the Iwata Eclipse HP-BCS and HP -CS ( Gravity feed ) airbrushes. I will never again use any other Airbrush but Iwata. 100% reliability, quality and awesome performance ! One needle takes care of all my fine line to broad spray patterns. Like zero cool mentioned about his Badger, it just feel's RIGHT to have an airbrush with perfect balance & weight in my hand. Another thing is that I have used the Azteck and I just don't get the "fine hair-lines " as I do with my Iwata's, all the better for detailing and camouflage patterns. My HP-BCS cost me $79 and my HP-CS was $89 at BearAir ( http://www.bearair.com/ ).
My advice to you ....... if possible ? ... is, like me, see if you can first try a few different Airbrushes out for your own satisfaction. It was the key factor in making my decision, and a good one. Oh, and since you do live in America, BearAir will let you purchase any airbrush and try it out for 45 day's and if your not 100% satisfied FOR ANY REASON, you can return the the airbrush for a 100% refund or exchange for another of your choice. I'm not trying to take away from the Azteck ... it is a good airbrush, but I found quite afew differences between it and the Iwata's. You just might like the Azteck better, as some do.
All I'm saying is try them out and judge for yourself. 2 -1/2 years ago my mind was "dead set " on buying an Azteck .......... until I tried an Iwata. The truth is the Passche VLS and Badger 150 were my 2nd and 3rd choices. Fortunately I had friends who had all these AB's and were happy to let me try them and I did alot of research for about a month before I made my decision. Here is GOOGLES web page for " Choosing the Right Airbrush " It's full of many different articles. You might want to check it out. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=choosing+an+airbrush&btnG=Google+Search

GOOD LUCK & ALL THE BEST TO YOU

- ralph
TimberWolf
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Posted: Sunday, August 03, 2003 - 05:56 PM UTC
Hey thanks guys,

First I checked Model Expo and it was arround 99$ (I forget now)
Then I checked Bearair and they had it for 89$, So I took it :-)

It should be coming in the mail ..todays 3rd... so...tomorow!
I cant wait
csch
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Posted: Monday, August 04, 2003 - 01:46 AM UTC
I love the Paschee Single Action. It´s strong, easy to operate, easy to clean and it´s cheap.
shonen_red
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Metro Manila, Philippines
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Posted: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 02:50 AM UTC
I use unbranded ones used by artist. Single action. Pretty cheap and easily replacable.
capnjock
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Posted: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 06:00 PM UTC
I started with the Aztec. As of yet, I have not reached the edges of the envelope. When my skill has reached the point that the Aztec fails to do what I need, then I will purchase what I need. As with any fine tool, there is a learning curve to find its limits. I am not there yet.
capnjock
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