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IR unit color for the panzer units
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Posted: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 - 08:15 AM UTC
I would like to know what is the color of the IR unit on the vehicles that the panzer units used?
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 12:03 PM UTC
Metal parts were generally Dunkelgelb, judging from available photos. Lens color is uncertain, but most IR filters are nearly black (though a museum restoration of a German IR system shows a dark blue lens--no idea if it is an original part, though).
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 01:26 PM UTC
When turned off IR lamps appear dark blue.
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Posted: Thursday, November 19, 2009 - 11:34 PM UTC
I always thought IR-lamps were red.
guess I'm wrong then...
Henry
guess I'm wrong then...
Henry
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Posted: Friday, November 20, 2009 - 03:50 AM UTC
IR – infrared – beyond the red spectrum of visible light in the electromagnetic spectrum – beyond human vision - it is the part of the electromagnetic spectrum before microwave energy kicks in.
Humans see visible light from 200 nanometres to 700 nanometres, infrared is from 750 nanometres (near infrared IR) to 3 micrometers (far IR) after that its microwaves and radio waves beyond.
See here for basic physics 101-
http://www.antonine-education.co.uk/physics_gcse/Unit_1/Topic_5/topic_5_what_are_the_uses_and_ha.htm
When you hold your hand in front of a fire what you feel is radiated infrared – invisible heat waves.
The source of infrared waves for military applications in WWII was an incandesant light source behind what appears to be a black screen. That is designed to block the visible light component and make it invisible to the human eye.
See here for infrared filters 101-
http://msp.rmit.edu.au/Article_03/02c.html
At the Koblenz museum they have a modern blue filter fitted on their Panther IR – it is not original German WWII and it is not an infrared filter. If you place an incandesant light behind it you would get a visible blue light in front. If you did the same thing to a red filter you would get a red light.
The Germans used a celluloid film filter that matched the Wratten 87 scale (Wratten was the guy who’s name still applies to the IR scale of filters). Go to a camera shop to see a Wratten IR filter, it is the same thing that was used during WWII. In 1/35th it would appear black.
That’s for infrared light sources. For infrared receivers (telescopes) they appear like any other scope with a glass optical assemble at the front – glassy.
The body of German receivers such as the FG 1250 was in effect dark yellow – ordinance tan.
Something like the SEEHUND and EGLE navy receivers was probably light grey judging by the photographs (B&W).
Humans see visible light from 200 nanometres to 700 nanometres, infrared is from 750 nanometres (near infrared IR) to 3 micrometers (far IR) after that its microwaves and radio waves beyond.
See here for basic physics 101-
http://www.antonine-education.co.uk/physics_gcse/Unit_1/Topic_5/topic_5_what_are_the_uses_and_ha.htm
When you hold your hand in front of a fire what you feel is radiated infrared – invisible heat waves.
The source of infrared waves for military applications in WWII was an incandesant light source behind what appears to be a black screen. That is designed to block the visible light component and make it invisible to the human eye.
See here for infrared filters 101-
http://msp.rmit.edu.au/Article_03/02c.html
At the Koblenz museum they have a modern blue filter fitted on their Panther IR – it is not original German WWII and it is not an infrared filter. If you place an incandesant light behind it you would get a visible blue light in front. If you did the same thing to a red filter you would get a red light.
The Germans used a celluloid film filter that matched the Wratten 87 scale (Wratten was the guy who’s name still applies to the IR scale of filters). Go to a camera shop to see a Wratten IR filter, it is the same thing that was used during WWII. In 1/35th it would appear black.
That’s for infrared light sources. For infrared receivers (telescopes) they appear like any other scope with a glass optical assemble at the front – glassy.
The body of German receivers such as the FG 1250 was in effect dark yellow – ordinance tan.
Something like the SEEHUND and EGLE navy receivers was probably light grey judging by the photographs (B&W).
Posted: Sunday, November 22, 2009 - 08:52 PM UTC
Jon,
Thanks for the history, information and links. Interesting stuff. Thus from the information presented the color for IR - infrared - lenses in 72nd scale would also appear black.
-Eddy
Thanks for the history, information and links. Interesting stuff. Thus from the information presented the color for IR - infrared - lenses in 72nd scale would also appear black.
-Eddy