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What is this item on BMP 2?
gizmo21
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Posted: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 11:30 AM UTC
Hello my Fellow plastic glue sniffers (joke)

Iam trying to build a BMP 2 .. in other words I rebuilding it to make it right.

now I need your help ....
What is this?



I cut if of fto rebuild it, but now I really want to know what it is...
-Frenchy?

Oh and oliver? Its your fault Iam building 1, because I read your buildinglog about the bmp2+aef set.
And I like your build.and that got me started...

thank you all
juge75
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Posted: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 04:19 PM UTC
Fuel input slot.
gizmo21
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Posted: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 09:50 PM UTC
-juge75
Thank you for your answer.
But are you sure? because in my osprey en concord books, the fuel imput is sits in between the rear hatches and behind the turret. (picture soon)

Thanks
chris
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Posted: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 09:57 PM UTC

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My Fellow plastic glue sniffers (joke)


Sorry... where's the joke in your sentence? I don't get it
gizmo21
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Posted: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 10:49 PM UTC



endrju007
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Posted: Tuesday, December 01, 2009 - 11:24 PM UTC
No, mate, please write it back!
We had some misunderstanding there: It was funny, my comment was intended to make it even funnier by suggesting that I'm notorious glue sniffer and due to this fact I don't get the joke!
I'm sorry if I wasn't understood.

Andrzej
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 05:29 AM UTC
Andrzej
I think I misunderstood you ! , sorry about that.

Now Iam up here anyway..anyone knows where the horn should go..
Ive have this little thing from modelpoint but no instruction where to put it

Iam a Nam-era builder so Iam not a expert on modern russian..
That why the questions, But there nice looking kits en fun to do a full rebuild.


chris.
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 07:23 AM UTC
I have no knowledge on this but could it be an armoured electrical point, or a connection point for some kind of sensor?
gizmo21
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 07:39 AM UTC
more pictures...
Will the guy that knows what it is please stand up.....





thank you guy`s voor thinking with me...520 hits in 20hours is pretty much ....
Frenchy
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 07:43 AM UTC
Could this have something to do with the NBC overpressure system (a kind of valve ?) ? There's a quite similar device on the BMP-1 hull top. In both cases it's located near the NBC filter cover...
Here it is on a BMP-1 (just between the turret ring and the commander's hatch) :


Frenchy
bison126
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 10:42 AM UTC

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Oh and oliver? Its your fault Iam building 1, because I read your buildinglog about the bmp2+aef set.
And I like your build.and that got me started...

thank you all



Hi Chris,
I'm glad you liked my build. Unfortunately I can't tell you what this thing is. I feel happy with Frenchy's guess though.

Olivier
gizmo21
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 12:40 PM UTC
glue friends.....

I think that frenchy has won the case of beer. (as always)
look at this picture en look on the bottom right...



I think thats it.
Until someone (ex bmp crew of some sort ) say otherwise , I liked to stick with this one.

thanks all(again)
chris
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 07:02 PM UTC
You're welcome Chris But maybe you should keep the beer case for the time being...I believe the "hatch locking device" is a different item that should logically be located very close to the said hatch I'm still inclined to favour an overpressure valve of some sort...

Frenchy
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 02:13 AM UTC
Here's what I've just found in a BMP-1 drawing from a Russian manual : this part is called "люк циклон-эжектора прибора" which could mean "cyclone ejector hatch unit" according to my friend Google

Maybe one of our Russian-speaking experts could give a better translation, but to me it has indeed something to do with overpressure

Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 - 09:51 AM UTC

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Until someone (ex bmp crew of some sort ) say otherwise , I liked to stick with this one.

chris


im former BMP driver in The czech army. Im glad to hear that you are interest about this vehicle.
I will help you, if you need (of course if i will know). On mentioned photo is really air suction for NBC device.


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believe the "hatch locking device" is a different item that should logically be located very close to the said hatch
Frenchy



The "hatch locking device" is a patr of the hatch.


if you want I will describe you all external devices.
Im not sure if its known that the colors of tubes in engine block mean the type of filling
(brown - oil, green - freezing liquid, yellow - fuel, blue - air, red - smother device).
gizmo21
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 - 10:52 AM UTC
Petr

Thank you for your help and clearing that up,
Yes is a nice vehicle but the kit is very poor . so Iam rebuilding it to make it right.
Actually Oliver (bison126) made a very nice one ,that one got me going , but when I saw the kit.................... some work had to be done.

Building something is one
Knowing what you build is 2

Question nr2...where the horn....
have one dont know where to put it...

chris
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 - 06:24 PM UTC
Thanks for your input Petr !

Chris, I've never noticed any visible horn in the BMP-2 walkaround pics I have (same with the BMP-1...) .....But Petr should know the answer

Frenchy
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 - 10:38 PM UTC
As Frenchy already wrote it, thanks Petr for your explanations. It's always interesting to know what we are building.

Olivier
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Posted: Sunday, December 06, 2009 - 05:52 AM UTC

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Fuel input slot.



certainly no
mladas
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Posted: Sunday, December 13, 2009 - 09:24 AM UTC

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Question nr2...where the horn....
have one dont know where to put it...

chris



The horn isnt on the vehicle but in the vehicle. It may be somewhere in front of the driver behind the
dashboard. I dont know exactly how does it look like because it works without servicing.
It wasnt used for warning (like horn in car) but for giving information to the crew of the vehicle ( start a engine, drive - away, reverse,...).
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Posted: Monday, March 29, 2010 - 08:01 AM UTC

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..
What is this?



It's a filter, like a hatch over FPT-200m filter on BMP-1
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