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Snow-covered railroad tracks by cheating
long_tom
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 06:09 AM UTC
I have intentions of building a scene of a railroad line in a winter snowscape. The ground is covered with a thicker layer of snow, but I wanted to show exposed rails, like a train had recently gone over these tracks. It sounds like a simple idea, but I have a feeling it might be more complex than I let on. Has anyone tried this?
lespauljames
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Posted: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 - 06:10 AM UTC
i would paint and weather the tracks ( make sure theo top is shiny atleast) and mask them up. apply snow, remove mask, bingo
long_tom
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 03:35 AM UTC
I was thinking of taking the step of not buying actual tracks, but using plastic strips which would mostly be covered with snow, and only the rail tops exposed. That's why I mentioned cheating.
milvehfan
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 03:59 AM UTC
I dont think its cheating . Isnt that scratchbuilding, , useing your imagination to get the same result and probablly more economic. The Dio sounds interesting so good luck with it.
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 04:13 AM UTC
I purchased some I beams from plastruct and used bass wood beams for ties. Are they true tracks -no. Do they look the part - sure do. Thats scratch building what you can't buy
I would use white glue/water mix to cover everything you want to have snow on and then sprinkle it on. Tip it over when the glue dries and as long as you didn't put glue on the tracks - you're good to go
I would use white glue/water mix to cover everything you want to have snow on and then sprinkle it on. Tip it over when the glue dries and as long as you didn't put glue on the tracks - you're good to go
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 04:20 AM UTC
No problem. Since only the tops of the tracks are showing, all you have to worry about is gauging the rails.
If it's 1/35 (I assume) I would take full length strips of Evergreen .125 X .250 and, using an emory board, or, the like, round off the top of the .125 side a bit (To simulate the top of the rails) and apply them to the roadbed. Make sure you have them athe correct distance apart from each other (Gauge).
After all is set and you're ready to apply the snow material, OVER apply it and run a truck down the tracks (The truck is the assembly holding the wheels) and the wheels themselves will make the neccissary "ruts" exposing the rails and pushing aside the "snow" where the flange of the wheel runs. Since the ties and roadbed won't be seen because of the snow, it should be a pretty easy bit of modeling.
Hope I've helped,
Cuhail
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 07:30 AM UTC
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After all is set and you're ready to apply the snow material, OVER apply it and run a truck down the tracks (The truck is the assembly holding the wheels) and the wheels themselves will make the neccissary "ruts" exposing the rails and pushing aside the "snow" where the flange of the wheel runs. Since the ties and roadbed won't be seen because of the snow, it should be a pretty easy bit of modeling.
Hope I've helped,
Cuhail
This method sounds great for newly fallen snow. However, because the ballast absorbs more heat than the surrounding ground, and is usually elevated, snow around the tracks tends to melt fairly quickly. Often snow melts between the ties, but remains on them.
Still, I know exactly what your intent is and think it'll work great. Heavy snow will more likely portray the look you want. You'll just have to shove a bunch of snow off to one side where it has been plowed. What are you using for the snow?
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 08:10 AM UTC
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After all is set and you're ready to apply the snow material, OVER apply it and run a truck down the tracks (The truck is the assembly holding the wheels) and the wheels themselves will make the neccissary "ruts" exposing the rails and pushing aside the "snow" where the flange of the wheel runs. Since the ties and roadbed won't be seen because of the snow, it should be a pretty easy bit of modeling.
Hope I've helped,
Cuhail
This method sounds great for newly fallen snow. However, because the ballas absorbs more heat than the surrounding ground, and is usually elevated, snow around the tracks tends to melt fairly quickly. Often snow melts between the ties, but remains on them.
Still, I know exactly what your intent is and think it'll work great. Heavy snow will more likely portray the look you want. You'll just have to shove a bunch of snow off to one side where it has been plowed. What are you using for tyhe snow?
I've never done an actual diorama before; I'm doing one of the Soviet Union in the winter of 1941/42 when the German offensive was stopped. The reason for the railroad: the USSR was very heavily dependent on them. The scene is of an extremely cold day after snow has fallen. What to use for snow I'm open to suggestions.
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 08:28 AM UTC
If it's exremely cold the melting won't be an issue. Some folks use mounds of baking soda. I've seen it and it looks great. I guess one of the advantages is you can keep redoing it if you're not happy with the look. Disadvantage is it's got to be messay as hell.
I like marble dust. You can buy in model RR shops. I'd carve out styrofoam to the shape you need (for the rail area plaster or CelluClay painted white is probably easier to work with)
then coat with white glue and srinkle liberally with marble dust. The advantage to this stuff is that it really sprakles like snow.
I like marble dust. You can buy in model RR shops. I'd carve out styrofoam to the shape you need (for the rail area plaster or CelluClay painted white is probably easier to work with)
then coat with white glue and srinkle liberally with marble dust. The advantage to this stuff is that it really sprakles like snow.
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Posted: Thursday, December 03, 2009 - 08:31 AM UTC
This should work out good, please post pics, I just posted some pics on a snow dio based around a T-34/85. Painted celluclay over spray foam. And remember to have fun or it's not a hobby.
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Posted: Friday, December 04, 2009 - 08:09 AM UTC
My plan, BTW, is to buy and use this to place upon the rails. I trust this is a decent kit. Also, I'm not sure if it's adjusted to standard German or Russian gauge.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 01:13 PM UTC
Well, I couldn't get the intended vehicle but I decided I didn't really need it; the tracks are actually meant to add atmosphere to the diorama. I want to do them spaced in Russian gauge, and I remember seeing the measurements for it some time ago but I cannot find them again. Can anyhone help so I can get started? Thanks.
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Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 01:21 PM UTC
That was probably me. I've posted it a few times in the past. it is 4' 11 5/6".
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Posted: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 - 04:43 PM UTC
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That was probably me. I've posted it a few times in the past. it is 4' 11 5/6".
Is that rail center to rail center, from the inner sides, or the outer sides?