Hi guys i was torn between putting this in the rivet review board, but its already there prior to weathering and all im looking for really is comments on my weathering.
This is my first attempt, ive weathered with a few coats of raw umber oil and humbrol thinners mixed, left that to dry and then made some mud from artificial dark grass, white glue and raw umber oil. Looking at my photos i know i need a little on the tracks at the back and i have still to do some touch up painting, especially on the tools as the wash washed of my wood effect. But what else do i need to do?
Any ideas greatfully considered!
thanks
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Mar-74
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 06:29 AM UTC
SS-74
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 06:39 AM UTC
Martin,
So far looked great, I especially like the muds on the substructures.
I would try a little on the following:
Give the gun and the MG a wash of black/dark color to bring out more details
Try spray some black color on the gun muzzle, so it looked that it had been fired
Put on a flat coat, from the pic, the model seems a bit on the shiny side
Other than that, great looking.
I think you would get more reply in the rivet review, although it have been realtively less comments now.
So far looked great, I especially like the muds on the substructures.
I would try a little on the following:
Give the gun and the MG a wash of black/dark color to bring out more details
Try spray some black color on the gun muzzle, so it looked that it had been fired
Put on a flat coat, from the pic, the model seems a bit on the shiny side
Other than that, great looking.
I think you would get more reply in the rivet review, although it have been realtively less comments now.
scoccia
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 06:59 AM UTC
On top of what Dave pointed out, I think taht there are streaks of your oil weathering that, in my view, are a bit too "strong". I suggest you to blend a bit more them in the camo, dipping the brush in the thinner you used for creating the wash.
Ciao
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WeWillHold
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 07:06 AM UTC
Martin. This vehicle is coming along nicely.
Per your request, please consider the following items.
Try some light drybrushing on the rivet tops with dunklegelb or a light mud color to make them visually "pop".
I think the tools look just fine as you have them.
As Dave mentioned, it appears to have a sheen (could just be the pics though).
Martin, the passenger front tire appears to have the glue seam sticking out fairly prominently---if so, you might want to attempt to remove with some light sanding and touch up painting, or try plopping some more mud on the seam to cover. If I'm completely out to lunch here Martin, I apologize.
I like your mud effect on the suspension and tracks --- they look down right dirty!! :-) :-)
Dave aka SS74 usually checks back on all these threads, so I'm asking Dave if the front lights are ok on this vehicle. Just so you know Martin, Dave is a German armor specialist and constantly gives me tips on proper "lens" treatment on my builds, so I was curious about the base paint coat on the front of these vehicle lights. I'm just curious on this Martin, and am not saying what is or is not appropriate, because I don't know.
This vehicle looks very good Martin. It is obvious you have put a lot of effort into this and its coming along just great.
Steve
ps: I agree with Dave---you could put this on Rivet Review---as a rule (in my opinion) threads there seem to get a lot more views and comments.
Per your request, please consider the following items.
Try some light drybrushing on the rivet tops with dunklegelb or a light mud color to make them visually "pop".
I think the tools look just fine as you have them.
As Dave mentioned, it appears to have a sheen (could just be the pics though).
Martin, the passenger front tire appears to have the glue seam sticking out fairly prominently---if so, you might want to attempt to remove with some light sanding and touch up painting, or try plopping some more mud on the seam to cover. If I'm completely out to lunch here Martin, I apologize.
I like your mud effect on the suspension and tracks --- they look down right dirty!! :-) :-)
Dave aka SS74 usually checks back on all these threads, so I'm asking Dave if the front lights are ok on this vehicle. Just so you know Martin, Dave is a German armor specialist and constantly gives me tips on proper "lens" treatment on my builds, so I was curious about the base paint coat on the front of these vehicle lights. I'm just curious on this Martin, and am not saying what is or is not appropriate, because I don't know.
This vehicle looks very good Martin. It is obvious you have put a lot of effort into this and its coming along just great.
Steve
ps: I agree with Dave---you could put this on Rivet Review---as a rule (in my opinion) threads there seem to get a lot more views and comments.
SS-74
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 07:21 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Martin. This vehicle is coming along nicely.
Per your request, please consider the following items.
Try some light drybrushing on the rivet tops with dunklegelb or a light mud color to make them visually "pop".
I think the tools look just fine as you have them.
As Dave mentioned, it appears to have a sheen (could just be the pics though).
Martin, the passenger front tire appears to have the glue seam sticking out fairly prominently---if so, you might want to attempt to remove with some light sanding and touch up painting, or try plopping some more mud on the seam to cover. If I'm completely out to lunch here Martin, I apologize.
I like your mud effect on the suspension and tracks --- they look down right dirty!! :-) :-)
Dave aka SS74 usually checks back on all these threads, so I'm asking Dave if the front lights are ok on this vehicle. Just so you know Martin, Dave is a German armor specialist and constantly gives me tips on proper "lens" treatment on my builds, so I was curious about the base paint coat on the front of these vehicle lights. I'm just curious on this Martin, and am not saying what is or is not appropriate, because I don't know.
This vehicle looks very good Martin. It is obvious you have put a lot of effort into this and its coming along just great.
Steve
ps: I agree with Dave---you could put this on Rivet Review---as a rule (in my opinion) threads there seem to get a lot more views and comments.
LOL, Martin, Lord WWH read me like an open book. God, I need to change my styles!
Now comes to the Lens, I had checked my books, these two head lights which should be of clear color. it's too far down the build that you can drill/hollow them out, so I think you can paint the surface a silver/chrom color, then apply some future on it to achieve a glass feel. In the future you could drill them out, then paint the inside cup silver color. Then apply testor's clear glue for clear parts. just pour them in, once it's dried, it will have the glass feel.
There are another kind of head lights in the half track that has a slit in the middle, this one is painted the vehicle's over all color.
HTH.
Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 08:19 AM UTC
Hi Martin
I'm only a very occasional arrmour modeller, so feel free to tell me to get lost!! :-)
The only thing I'd add to the excellent points the others have made is that the wooden parts on the MG etc. look a bit colourful... maybe a pale brown base-coat, streaked with burnt umber oil-paint (for grain effect) would be more realistic... :-)
All the best
Rowan
I'm only a very occasional arrmour modeller, so feel free to tell me to get lost!! :-)
The only thing I'd add to the excellent points the others have made is that the wooden parts on the MG etc. look a bit colourful... maybe a pale brown base-coat, streaked with burnt umber oil-paint (for grain effect) would be more realistic... :-)
All the best
Rowan
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Posted: Saturday, July 19, 2003 - 05:13 PM UTC
One thing that jumps out to me is the mud on the wheels. I think it looks really great so far. I would add a little mud all around the wheels though, not just the bottom of the wheels. My understanding is they would pick up mud all around as they go around and around. Great work all around I must say.
PLMP110
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Posted: Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 01:11 AM UTC
Your fender markers appear to be broken. No big deal, just paint the end with a metal color or even better, a drop of rust all.
Patrick
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Posted: Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 01:40 AM UTC
Mar:
Nice looking kit, the airbrushed cammo looks nice. (I don't think the Spice Girls would be caught dead in that thing)
One tip to try down the road (depending on the look you're going for) is to add a little white to all the paints you use on base coat and camo. That just lightens them a tad and gives it a worn feel and what is called "scale effect." Sorta softens the colors, not that your are too dark, but I think it gives a nice effect.
Just something to give some thought to and experiment with....
Nice looking kit, the airbrushed cammo looks nice. (I don't think the Spice Girls would be caught dead in that thing)
One tip to try down the road (depending on the look you're going for) is to add a little white to all the paints you use on base coat and camo. That just lightens them a tad and gives it a worn feel and what is called "scale effect." Sorta softens the colors, not that your are too dark, but I think it gives a nice effect.
Just something to give some thought to and experiment with....