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What is this structure ?
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 05:29 AM UTC
Guys, what does this structure look like or suggest to you ? Stable ? Something else ? Figure included in picture for scale only.


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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 05:49 AM UTC
Field-made checkpoint cabin ?

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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 05:50 AM UTC
Jon,
You could use it as a vehicle checkpoint shelter, something along those lines. I personally would think not for a stable (the open areas would let too many elements in).
Just a thought but you might want to try making the outer planks narrower. They look to be about 14-16 odd inches wide. just think how often you see planking that wide (I'm not saying it doesn't happen, just not very common)
Hope to have helped
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 06:02 AM UTC
Elevate it and it could be an observation post.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 06:07 AM UTC
If you added a couple of layers of sandbags around the exterior and a layer on the roof, it could pass as one of the bunkers we used ot build on our berms in Vietnam. Generally, these bunkers had 6x6 uprights and 2x12 boards on the sides. Overhead planking was also 2x12's. The overheads generally had a layer of tarp (to keep the rain away) and then a layer of sandbags (to keep the steel rain away).

Two or three layers around the outside of the walls would stop most direct fire weapons. We liked to add a layer of sandbags on the inside as well to stop any wood splinters kicked up by any round that penetrated the wood. These bunkers were generally manned by two Marines from sunset to dawn. Each Marine would have an M-16, plus grenades. The bunker would also have an M-60 machine gun and usually an M-79 40mm grenade launcher (blooper).

Having said all that, your figure looks like you are contemplating a WWII dio. If that is the case, you would could use the same concept for a fixed German or Allied position in the ETO. I don't think this would be a good based for a Japansese or allied position in the PTO. Japansese positions were usually hand carved from the coral rock of the islands or made with concrete or palm logs.

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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 06:27 AM UTC
My first impression was a roadside fruit & vegetable stand. I think that it could fit in to some sort of improvised building in the Pacific Theater, Korea, and Vietnam. As someone stated, the wall planking is too wide. Maybe split them up at various widths to make it look improvised and constructed of found materials. There's alot of options as to what you want to make it into, either civilian or military.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 06:27 AM UTC
Tom,
Excellent suggestion, please post a pic if you have one of a vehichle checkpoint shelter in a WWII context.

Jesse,
Were the Germans the only ones using such an observation post in WWII ? Or maybe a prison camp ?

Dave,
Your idea has an appeal to me, I can definitely see a Vietnam war setting but I wonder if there are pics of such a position in a WWII context ?

The heavy planking may take it out of the realm of common structures- tool sheds, maintanance sheds etc. Too, I could always plank up the open areas...
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 06:30 AM UTC

Quoted Text

My first impression was a roadside fruit & vegetable stand. I think that it could fit in to some sort of improvised building in the Pacific Theater, Korea, and Vietnam. As someone stated, the wall planking is too wide. Maybe split them up at various widths to make it look improvised and constructed of found materials.



Gab, do you mean split the planks in halves, maybe even in thirds ?
I was thinking about adding a rusty tin roof as well. But maybe that would take it out if a WWII context as well.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 06:37 AM UTC

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Tom,
Jesse,
Were the Germans the only ones using such an observation post in WWII ? Or maybe a prison camp ?



I would imagine any base of operations had something at least kinda equivalent. This is just shooting from the hip, no direct experience or resource.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 07:18 AM UTC
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My first impression was a roadside fruit & vegetable stand. I think that it could fit in to some sort of improvised building in the Pacific Theater, Korea, and Vietnam. As someone stated, the wall planking is too wide. Maybe split them up at various widths to make it look improvised and constructed of found materials.



Gab, do you mean split the planks in halves, maybe even in thirds ?
I was thinking about adding a rusty tin roof as well. But maybe that would take it out if a WWII context as well.[/quote

Split them lengthwise...halves and thirds...go for a mix of 1x8s, 1x10s, and 1x12s. I hate to really suggest too much without knowing what you plan to use it. However, you do have alot of options with this building.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 08:15 AM UTC
Its a potting shed minus the shelves.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 12:46 PM UTC
Put a floor on it and raise it off the ground a few scale feet , kind of like an adobo. It can serve as a small radio shack either Japanese or American in a Pacific dio. Or how bout Brittish in Burma..........Al
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Posted: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 - 05:32 PM UTC

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Put a floor on it and raise it off the ground a few scale feet , kind of like an adobo. It can serve as a small radio shack either Japanese or American in a Pacific dio. Or how bout Brittish in Burma..........Al



I like this idea. Maybe fashion up some netting for the window areas.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 09:57 AM UTC
Ya got it wrong Darren. That's my duck blind for this year . It could be used for any of the above mentioned Jon. As a stable, it seems a bit small for working horses. Check point seems best.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 12:02 PM UTC

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Ya got it wrong Darren. That's my duck blind for this year . It could be used for any of the above mentioned Jon. As a stable, it seems a bit small for working horses. Check point seems best.



Egads man, that's it- a duck blind !!

Wait.. a duck blind ?? Does this mean I have to model... ducks ?
Oh, the humanity....
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Posted: Wednesday, February 03, 2010 - 12:28 PM UTC
Coulda been worse...If you enclosed the whole thing in chicken wire ,you"d have to fill it with a bunch of chickens. Then do a dio on "Chicken Run" or maybe something with those pesky cows trying to get us to eat more chicken.......
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