Yer OK I know the desert is hot and sunny but is does get bloody cold at night!
The point is I have some figures that came with a kit. I would like to use them, but dont want to make a uniform boo-boo.
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Long trousers in the desert?
madeinengland
Joined: February 05, 2009
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Posted: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 09:02 AM UTC
Is it known if the 8th army, that are always portraid as wearing shorts and shirt sleeves rolled up, ever actually wore long trousers.Did they ever roll the arms of their shirts down.
Yer OK I know the desert is hot and sunny but is does get bloody cold at night!
The point is I have some figures that came with a kit. I would like to use them, but dont want to make a uniform boo-boo.
Yer OK I know the desert is hot and sunny but is does get bloody cold at night!
The point is I have some figures that came with a kit. I would like to use them, but dont want to make a uniform boo-boo.
exer
Joined: November 27, 2004
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Posted: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 09:41 AM UTC
The KD shirt AFAIK didn't have long sleeves. KD long trousers were worn , both issue and privately purchased. At night Battledrees blouses pullovers and Greatcoats were worn.
Do you have a pic of the figures in question?
Do you have a pic of the figures in question?
pebblemonkey
Joined: January 26, 2009
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Posted: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 - 09:54 AM UTC
Hi All,
Daytime regulations were for shorts and short sleeved jackets or rolled up shirt sleeves.
Evening regs were trousers and shirt sleeves rolled down for anti mosquito precautions.
Matt
Daytime regulations were for shorts and short sleeved jackets or rolled up shirt sleeves.
Evening regs were trousers and shirt sleeves rolled down for anti mosquito precautions.
Matt
madeinengland
Joined: February 05, 2009
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:28 AM UTC
Quoted Text
The KD shirt AFAIK didn't have long sleeves. KD long trousers were worn , both issue and privately purchased. At night Battledrees blouses pullovers and Greatcoats were worn.
Do you have a pic of the figures in question?
Thanks for that. The figure in question is one that comes with the Tamiya Universal Carrier mk II. It is the dude behind the Bren gun, next to the driver.
I wish to use him as he is a bit different to the norm in that he is wearing his leather 'jacket'.
Tamiya do provide two figures in typical KD kit, plus three figures in European BD The gunner is one of the later.
Sorry dont have a picture of him. Yet.
exer
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:01 AM UTC
Here's a pic of 8th army types weqaring great coats and leather jerkins
The guy on the left is essentially wearing what the Gunner from The carrier kit wears.
The only thing you have to be careful of is mixing troops dressed for cold weather with those wearing short sleeves and shorts.
The guy on the left is essentially wearing what the Gunner from The carrier kit wears.
The only thing you have to be careful of is mixing troops dressed for cold weather with those wearing short sleeves and shorts.
madeinengland
Joined: February 05, 2009
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:14 AM UTC
Jerkin! thats what its called!!!
Thanks for that.
My Gunner has Kept his trousers and jerkin on. So either hes been to busy to change or something.
If he looks totally out of place I can always use it an other time.
Thanks for that.
My Gunner has Kept his trousers and jerkin on. So either hes been to busy to change or something.
If he looks totally out of place I can always use it an other time.
pebblemonkey
Joined: January 26, 2009
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:35 AM UTC
Quoted Text
Jerkin! thats what its called!!!
Thanks for that.
My Gunner has Kept his trousers and jerkin on. So either hes been to busy to change or something.
If he looks totally out of place I can always use it an other time.
Just have it set as Early morning time. Rather than mid afternoon.
Matt
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:54 AM UTC
I always think those big baggy desert shorts look quite comical, almost like something straight out of a Morecambe & Wise sketch (not really adding much to the thread here, just an aside).
JasonD
Joined: February 11, 2008
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:17 AM UTC
Steve your thinking of the Bombay Bloomers, I always think of Don Estelle in "It Aint half hot mum"!
I spent to two years working in the Algerian Sahara duuring the mid 90's and have always felt that wearing shorts was a strange choice! Yes its hot but the terrain chnages rapidly and you often come across gravel plains where the gravel is razor sharp. Nealing down in bear knees would madness!
I spent to two years working in the Algerian Sahara duuring the mid 90's and have always felt that wearing shorts was a strange choice! Yes its hot but the terrain chnages rapidly and you often come across gravel plains where the gravel is razor sharp. Nealing down in bear knees would madness!
pebblemonkey
Joined: January 26, 2009
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:24 AM UTC
Just got to rough it, big tough soldiers!
Matt
Matt
NikToo
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 08:58 AM UTC
There's definitely evidence of the leather jerkin being worn in the desert. There's a photo somewhere of two tankers sitting atop a Crusader (think they're 10th RTR...), both wearing jerkins and woolie hats. Check Spike Milligan's account of the desert war as well, his account on what to wear at night included everything, even rolled up newspapers. Also remember the desert war didn't just last over the summer, they spent three winters there, including a miserable one in Tunisia in 1942/43.
Spellbot5000
Joined: December 28, 2009
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 07:58 PM UTC
I'm no expert on uniforms and what periods they were worn, but if my copy of Afrikakorps: Rommels Tropical Army in Colour is to be believed, german soldiers wore what they wanted, when they wanted in Africa. I don't think there are two photos in that entire book where two different soldiers are wearing the same thing.
madeinengland
Joined: February 05, 2009
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 10:15 AM UTC
Seams to be a consenses that they would have their kd shorts and shirts during the day (in summer) ordinary drab battle tops and trousers at night. jerkins if you had one or a great coat, also in drab.
A question regarding CO's hats. I have one set saying paint it flat black, an other says mid stone and a third says khaki. which is right, or are they all right, depending in which reg/div/unit they where CO for? Maybe its a rank thing.
Any one able to shed a bit of light on that too.
it aint hakf hot mum. Now thats worth a re-run.
A question regarding CO's hats. I have one set saying paint it flat black, an other says mid stone and a third says khaki. which is right, or are they all right, depending in which reg/div/unit they where CO for? Maybe its a rank thing.
Any one able to shed a bit of light on that too.
it aint hakf hot mum. Now thats worth a re-run.
pebblemonkey
Joined: January 26, 2009
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Posted: Thursday, February 11, 2010 - 01:15 PM UTC
Quoted Text
Seams to be a consenses that they would have their kd shorts and shirts during the day (in summer) ordinary drab battle tops and trousers at night. jerkins if you had one or a great coat, also in drab.
A question regarding CO's hats. I have one set saying paint it flat black, an other says mid stone and a third says khaki. which is right, or are they all right, depending in which reg/div/unit they where CO for? Maybe its a rank thing.
Any one able to shed a bit of light on that too.
it aint hakf hot mum. Now thats worth a re-run.
What type of Officer's hats do you mean- SD cap, Beret, sidecap etc?
Matt
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