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Armor and ground forces of the Axis forces during World War II.
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Panther, my third model
RomanS
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 09:49 AM UTC
Hey all.

Well I finally got around the Dragon's Panther with zimmerit, and managed to finish it. Only thing thats left is dusting with some pigments, and its good to go.

Its all out of box, no addons. Painted with Tamiya and weathered with Humbrol washes. This is actually my third model ever. Im still learning a lot.

Enjoy





ericadeane
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 09:54 AM UTC
It looks really good! Congrats!

The one thing I noticed is the protruding coaxial MG from the mantlet. I'm almost certain that the MG's barrel was only flush with the mantlet face -- not sticking out
Bronze4
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 10:11 AM UTC
Unbelievable, the way these guys just starting out can produce such a fine model. I had to work for years and screw up dozens of kits before I could do one on this kind of a level.

One thing is certain, you got the mojo. I'd hate to think of the caliber that you are gonna be building after a few decades of building.

Keep up the great work,
Dave Shaw
RomanS
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 10:21 AM UTC
thank you for such kind words guys !

im proud to be part of this forum and the hobby of ours.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 10:22 AM UTC
Nice, very nice. Hard to believe it's only your third model.

-Gabe-
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:03 AM UTC
Are you SURE it's your 3rd model ever...?
Outstanding result!
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:33 AM UTC

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Are you SURE it's your 3rd model ever...?
Outstanding result!



I think he means it's his 3rd model of 2010, because no-one is that good after just 3 attempts.

Great build, cracking paint-job.

- Steve
RomanS
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:39 AM UTC

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Are you SURE it's your 3rd model ever...?
Outstanding result!



I think he means it's his 3rd model of 2010, because no-one is that good after just 3 attempts.

Great build, cracking paint-job.

- Steve



LOL

Thanks for compliments guys. But Im fully serious.

This is my first that I never finished lol



This is my second



and the Panther, is my third. I watched many videos on techniques and styles, and working as an artist for a living this fortunately helped a lot.

But thanks again guys !
pzcreations
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 12:16 PM UTC

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Unbelievable, the way these guys just starting out can produce such a fine model. I had to work for years and screw up dozens of kits before I could do one on this kind of a level.

One thing is certain, you got the mojo. I'd hate to think of the caliber that you are gonna be building after a few decades of building.

Keep up the great work,
Dave Shaw



I'll second that... cant even remember my third model, but I wasnt at this calibre even with my tenth. I agree with Roys comment, the MG shouldve been installed from the inside of the mantlet. and if I may, a few more tips, the tracks look dirty, but the road wheels are spit shine clean..Id add some dirt washes ,pigments..something to them. and Im not sure if Im seeing it correctly, but on the sides of the glacis plate (front plate of the hull) it appears to be rust along the edge? which also appears to have zimmerit (a concrete type paste) which doesnt rust. other than that..your well ahead of the game..and on your way to some nice awards
Kuno-Von-Dodenburg
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 12:19 PM UTC

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I watched many videos on techniques and styles, and working as an artist for a living this fortunately helped a lot.



Aha!

I just knew that wasn't only your third time playing with paints, Roman! That explains a lot.

Your first and second tanks also look pretty good from where I'm sitting. Thanks for sharing your work.

Welcome aboard. Great to have you on this site. Hope you'll stick around.

- Steve
RomanS
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 12:37 PM UTC

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Unbelievable, the way these guys just starting out can produce such a fine model. I had to work for years and screw up dozens of kits before I could do one on this kind of a level.

One thing is certain, you got the mojo. I'd hate to think of the caliber that you are gonna be building after a few decades of building.

Keep up the great work,
Dave Shaw



I'll second that... cant even remember my third model, but I wasnt at this calibre even with my tenth. I agree with Roys comment, the MG shouldve been installed from the inside of the mantlet. and if I may, a few more tips, the tracks look dirty, but the road wheels are spit shine clean..Id add some dirt washes ,pigments..something to them. and Im not sure if Im seeing it correctly, but on the sides of the glacis plate (front plate of the hull) it appears to be rust along the edge? which also appears to have zimmerit (a concrete type paste) which doesnt rust. other than that..your well ahead of the game..and on your way to some nice awards



Thank you for your comments and critique. Its well appreciated. I will be adding more dirt to the wheels for sure. As for the wearing off the edge, I actually removed the zimmerit with xacto knife to create a wear off. Its hard to see on that pic, but here is a higher res.

http://rms3d.com/images/Photos/ScaleModels/Panther/IMG_6804.jpg

you can see the cement wearing off into Grey color on the turret edges as well.
RomanS
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 12:38 PM UTC

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I watched many videos on techniques and styles, and working as an artist for a living this fortunately helped a lot.



Aha!

I just knew that wasn't only your third time playing with paints, Roman! That explains a lot.

Your first and second tanks also look pretty good from where I'm sitting. Thanks for sharing your work.

Welcome aboard. Great to have you on this site. Hope you'll stick around.

- Steve



Thank you so much

Im also proud to be here! You guys are a great, and i actually learned a lot from watching your builds and reading countless of posts on painting and weathering. Ofcourse MIG videos and FAQ book was a huge help.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 12:54 PM UTC
What is there to learn ? If this is honestly your third model , I would say it is fantastic. If it is not I would still say its fantastic. My guess is that you were already accomplised in art and things like oil painting etc , before you took up modeling. There was a guy who won the DMOM with a model that wasn't his. I just hope that you are not another one like that........Al......(edit) OK I read the part about you being into art , makes you more credable.
-Gabe-
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 03:02 PM UTC
Your 1st and 2nd models also look fabulous - especially the weathering!
I just imagine myself how your models are gonna look like in few years... (scary thought! lol)
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 05:32 PM UTC

Awesome,,Very good job...........Monty
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Posted: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 - 11:42 PM UTC
hi roman,
i built the same panther. i hope it comes out as good as yours. beautiful job on that big cat.
respectfuly yours
nick morgan
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 02:08 PM UTC
Hey Roman,
Good job. After looking at your builds, I'm not sure if i ever want to build again.! LoL. Really good job!
John
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 07:40 PM UTC
Outstanding work. Thanks for sharing. You sure have a talent.
elph
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 08:37 PM UTC
I can understand that if you watched some DVDs and read books about weathering you can produce a work like this. It's just that a lot of modellers don't buy them. When I bought MIG's FAQ, my quality increased dramatically and I still continue to buy the Japanese and Spanish publications. Actually, it's not that hard to achieve a decent model with limited experience if you follow the steps outlined in the books, DVDs, etc. So to all those modellers who say that it would take them years to get to this level, you need to invest in some of these resources, especially the Spanish ones and you can save yourself some time and anguish.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 08:52 PM UTC
That's a great Panther Roman - very clean build and great paintwork with restrained weathering.

For a 3rd AFV model - simply incredible!

Well done mate.

Gary .
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:00 PM UTC
Absolutely impressive

In reference to Brett's comments, for those who aren't familiar with them, these are the Xtreme Modelling publications:

http://armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Reviews&file=index&req=showmaker&makerid=687
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 09:04 PM UTC

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I can understand that if you watched some DVDs and read books about weathering you can produce a work like this. It's just that a lot of modellers don't buy them. When I bought MIG's FAQ, my quality increased dramatically and I still continue to buy the Japanese and Spanish publications. Actually, it's not that hard to achieve a decent model with limited experience if you follow the steps outlined in the books, DVDs, etc. So to all those modellers who say that it would take them years to get to this level, you need to invest in some of these resources, especially the Spanish ones and you can save yourself some time and anguish.



I dunno elph.

Books and DVDs are certainly useful, but they're not the be-all and end-all. I found that out for myself after 5 years of buying "Men's Heatlh" magazine religiously: Month after month I read it for hours and hours, and internalised all those health and fitness tips - yet still that 'washboard' stomach never appeared, LOL!!

But seriously, I think that as in anything, theory can only take you so far and there's no substitute for good old-fashioned hands-on practice. Added to that, some modellers possess more natural talent than others, or are simply quicker learners.

- Steve
elph
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Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 01:36 AM UTC

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But seriously, I think that as in anything, theory can only take you so far and there's no substitute for good old-fashioned hands-on practice. Added to that, some modellers possess more natural talent than others, or are simply quicker learners.



Yes, that's true. I just saw one of those "probuilt" models on ebay by a modeller who stated that he had decades of experience; it was a real hack job, truly horrible. I guess some people just don't learn well.

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Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 04:22 PM UTC
Hi Roman !
I liked your painting - is realistic. Good work!
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Posted: Wednesday, November 24, 2010 - 05:01 AM UTC
great job!
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