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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 02:20 AM UTC
Hi guys,
I have been so busy with large dioramas and painting lately, that I needed a break from those and go build something small and lighthearted.
I have had the idea for this little vignette for some time now and I hoped i could do it in a larger scale... Unfortunately I couldn't.. So I am doing it in 1/35!

This is where the idea came from;


Some referencepictures;




The basic "ingredients";






And a comparisson of size;
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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 04:03 AM UTC
An interesting subject Ron, what makes are the figures?
Cheers

Loobes
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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 08:47 AM UTC
Hi Loobes,
the soldier in greatcoat is from Master Box' set "Supplies at last" and the boy is from Andrea, if I'm not mistaken.
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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 09:10 AM UTC
Verry interesting. And just a bit disturbing at the same time.
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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 09:19 PM UTC
Well Mark, little boys do have a fascination for soldiers, wether they were Germans 70 years ago or Marines today.

I did some work on both last night.
First off was the soldier.
Although I thought the basics were acceptable, there were a few places that were not. The hands were too small, so I replaced those with a pair of suitable Dragonparts. The ammopouches were also a bit on the small side and lacked detail, so I replaced those too.
The head was a different story. It was big and round, looking odd. An new head was added, one with a correct angle and with a gentle expresion. The original helmet was flat on top and had a sinkmark, so another Dragonpiece was selected. I thought that this one looked early war.
Here's a comparissonshot;


In order to get things to fit neatly together some sanding on the innerside of the right arm was needed. Now the arm matches the shoulder and ammopouches again.

Next was the boy. He had quite a few resindrops which had to be removed. That wasn't too hard, except for the largde drop between right arm and torso. He also had 2 large holes where his toes should be. Filling and sanding that was not as easy as I thought.
His hat had to come off in order to make room for his helmet. I cut of the head in such a way that his curls on his forehead remain. The angle of the head had to be adjusted to get him to look at the soldier's face.


And the happy couple together;
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Posted: Friday, February 12, 2010 - 09:55 PM UTC
Hi Ron. Ive seen the first image before somewhere ... maybe here(?).... but it will make for a very neat little vignette. You´ve done a nice job capturing the two figures with some easy modifications. A good example of how to take what you have, and make it work for your scene. Looking forward to seeing them painted.
Will you make a base/background for them?
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 02:32 AM UTC
Hi Frank, yes, it was me who posted this picture here sometime ago in search for suitable figures.
And yes, there will be some groundwork and scenery too. I am planning for a guardshouse and flagpole as an entrance to an armybase.

Thanks for the comments!
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 03:14 AM UTC
Cool idea!
Also the scene reminds my to an boxart by IBG Models.


greetings...
Soeren
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 03:21 AM UTC
One small problem, the boy is wearing Summer cloths and the Soldier is wearing winter. Should be an easy fix on the pants.

Ken
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 03:59 AM UTC

Quoted Text

One small problem, the boy is wearing Summer cloths and the Soldier is wearing winter. Should be an easy fix on the pants.

Ken



It's based on the photo and the kid there is wearing shorts while the soldier wears a greatcoat- I think it's fine.
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 04:37 AM UTC
Ron,
You're exactly right little boys want to be just like daddy when they grow up. Capturing that can elevate this vignette over most others. Best of luck with it.

Maybe it was the Christmas card that jared my tender American sensibilities.
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Posted: Saturday, February 13, 2010 - 05:53 AM UTC
Interesting and different. I like it and am looking forward to seeing it finished. The soldier in the great coat is looking at the boy as if to say " If he only knew how F****d up this war is". The soldier in the guard shack is either sporting two black eyes or has not gotten much sleep lately. Are you doing yours that way ? LOL. ......AL
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Posted: Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 12:24 AM UTC
Thanks for the comments guys.
The box by IBG was unknown to me, but it sure does have a lot of potential.
The christmascard isn't genuine, I think, just the picture is. Someone added the text later on.
It is a good reference though, as it shows the toyhelmet and uniform.

I have been working on the guardshouse, which I made out of plastic card. Measuring was done by eye, using the soldier as reference.


After that I carved out the planking and used a coursegrid sandpaper to get a wooden texture. This was a complete new technique for me.




This is how it will look later on... I guess..


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Posted: Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 06:32 AM UTC
looking good!
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Posted: Sunday, February 14, 2010 - 06:53 AM UTC
Hi, Ron. I love the way this scene captures a moment and tells a story - great job!

Can you positively identify the Andrea kit of the little boy? I'd like to get my hands on one for a scene I'm doing. All the Andrea figures I've ever done were metal, though... so I don't know how to find him.

Thanks! Looking forward to the finished product --

John A.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 11:10 PM UTC
promises to be a very nice diorama. It is a pity that once again a German soldier.
Too many of those German soldiers, Russian, British .... Monotony.
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 11:38 PM UTC
Thanks gentlemen!

@ John; the boy is in one of the western-subjects I believe.
@ Adam; don't worry Adam. I know it is German, but there is a Warsaw Uprising-dio coming too, without a German in sight!
Keep your eyes open!
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Posted: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 11:49 PM UTC
Hmm, I mean, that makes the monotony. How do I view the work of enthusiasts, but it gets boring, I see Pz.IV d, j, h ... Pz.V, Pz.VI version flying, underwater , I am now I'm going to fiddle with some models of World War I, it will be interesting. As for the Warsaw Uprising and the occupation in general, that's another story. I mean the other new models. Sorry for my English.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 03:19 AM UTC
Here are the pictures from my last update. I made the boy's toyrifle, added a rifle and sling to the soldier and did some work on the vignetteprops too.
First the boy.
I took a rifle from my sparesbox, which lacked any detail. I thought that it would make the perfect start for a toyrifle. I shortened it, sanded of the "metal"-parts and added a steelwire barrel. I also gave it a rope as a sling, made from twisted copperwire. I tied it to the rifle and drilled a small hole between the boy's arm and torso. Then the other end was tied, too.
The bottom rifle is a Dragon item;




There were some questions and remarks on the boy's helmet.
It is a lot smaller and thinner than the soldier's helmet, so it does make a perfect toyhelmet.




The last piece of work I did was for the vignette itself. I felt that it lacked something, nl. height. Therefor I made a flagpole. I added a rope and attachments, too. No flag (yet), as I don't want to uppset anyone...
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 12:34 PM UTC
Can better use the thread instead of wire.
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Posted: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - 08:56 PM UTC
Really nice. Top marks on the toy gun.
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Posted: Thursday, February 18, 2010 - 03:57 AM UTC
Hi Ron
What a great idea for a small diorama! And the subject could work in any army or war through history. Hey, how about adding the boys kid brother, armed with a wodden sword and a tin pot/casserole on the head.... Just a thought.
Jacob
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Posted: Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 07:23 AM UTC
Thanks guys!

A younger brother would be cool, but this is the smallest boy I could fand anywhere!

I about finished the flagpole and flag.
I took a "Reichskriegsflagge", because I had to choose between this one and a swastika, which I thought would be to dominant.
I bent and folded it in such a way that the flag as such is still recognisable without the hakenkreuz being visible right away.

It'll be something like this;


The flag and the unpainted rings;


and the base;
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Posted: Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 10:50 AM UTC
Kami de Koro Koro make an oldman and boy set that you could get the younger brother from. The detail isn't great but a modeler with your skills could sharpen it up
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Posted: Saturday, February 20, 2010 - 09:59 PM UTC
I thought you might like to check this out for your next project:

http://images.google.com/hosted/life/l?imgurl=fb292d0ed59a405e&q=italy%20MP%20wwii%20source:life&prev=/images%3Fq%3Ditaly%2BMP%2Bwwii%2Bsource:life%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG%26imgtbs%3Dc%26as_st%3Dy%26tbs%3Disch:1
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