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Staghound mk III ,Kataeb Milice (model 1/35)
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Posted: Monday, March 01, 2010 - 07:55 AM UTC
Hi
With the help from Jim Ican build my Stag.

The project will be this :




A vehicule from the Lebane Kataeb milice. There i some local improuvment to the US Stag III :



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Posted: Monday, March 01, 2010 - 08:21 PM UTC
VERY interesting variant... Is that cupola from something else or is it extemporized?
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Posted: Monday, March 01, 2010 - 09:52 PM UTC
Jim I dont understand your question

The cupola is a lebanese home made cupola. It can be seen on regular army or mitian Stag 3 turret

As there is not many pics available I build mine with the few poor references I have. So the global dimensions could be right but details are supposed.....
If any one have more pics I will be happy to see them TIA
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Posted: Monday, March 01, 2010 - 10:01 PM UTC
So the Lebanese Militia added the turret themselves - it looked as if it came from something else? I've seen one or two pictures of the Stag III with that modification - nothing which shows much detail though...

It was a good decision, on your part, to do the conversion. The Stag III's an interesting vehicle but VERY badly-documented. Apart from the preserved examples, there aren't a lot of 'in-theater' images available. I've got mine built but desperately looking for ideas as to finish.

I even considered a 'What-if' for a Commonwealth vehicle in Japan 1946...
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Posted: Monday, March 01, 2010 - 10:36 PM UTC
OK
I've build recently another one but from the Mourabitoun militia :



With the ADV Azimut conversion kit
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 05:57 AM UTC

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So the Lebanese Militia added the turret themselves - it looked as if it came from something else? I've seen one or two pictures of the Stag III with that modification - nothing which shows much detail though...

It was a good decision, on your part, to do the conversion. The Stag III's an interesting vehicle but VERY badly-documented. Apart from the preserved examples, there aren't a lot of 'in-theater' images available. I've got mine built but desperately looking for ideas as to finish.

I even considered a 'What-if' for a Commonwealth vehicle in Japan 1946...



Jim the turret is a modified Crusader Mk III turret fitted with a 75mm gun and wasn't fitted by the Lebonease they simply modified the Crusader turret with a new coupler and other little bits . I've got a walk around of it in 2nd Canadian corps markings from a Magazine article of the Mk III if your interested?

Pascal very nice work indeed could you tell me what make the barrel is? Great work keep it coming.

Jaymes.

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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 07:14 AM UTC

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OK
I've build recently another one but from the Mourabitoun militia :



With the ADV Azimut conversion kit



Hi Pascal, nice kit, but I should tell you that "Mourabitoun" and "Jaish Loubnan al Arabi" aka Arab Army of Lebanon (the decale on the turret) are 2 different Militias, and the "mourabitoun" word is mispelled, it should be المرابطون
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 07:56 AM UTC

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Jim the turret is a modified Crusader Mk III turret fitted with a 75mm gun and wasn't fitted by the Lebonease they simply modified the Crusader turret with a new coupler and other little bits .



Emmm, yep I know - I published the first full-build Review on the 'Net:

http://armorama.com/review/3509
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 08:14 AM UTC

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Jim the turret is a modified Crusader Mk III turret fitted with a 75mm gun and wasn't fitted by the Lebonease they simply modified the Crusader turret with a new coupler and other little bits .



Emmm, yep I know - I published the first full-build Review on the 'Net:

http://armorama.com/review/3509



Tidy. You just confused me with your statement asking whether the Lebanese Militia added the crusader turret or not.

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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 08:17 AM UTC
It was badly phrased on my part - I wondered if the cupola had come from another vehicle.

Sorry for the confusion!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 08:42 AM UTC

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It was badly phrased on my part - I wondered if the cupola had come from another vehicle.

Sorry for the confusion!



No problem Jim sorry on my part too im easlily confused



Sorry for hijacking your thread Pascal!
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 08:43 AM UTC

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OK
I've build recently another one but from the Mourabitoun militia :



With the ADV Azimut conversion kit



Hi Pascal, nice kit, but I should tell you that "Mourabitoun" and "Jaish Loubnan al Arabi" aka Arab Army of Lebanon (the decale on the turret) are 2 different Militias, and the "mourabitoun" word is mispelled, it should be المرابطون



My decals are inspirated from the well known pics from a mourabitoun Stag. The left hand side from the car are copy from the pic. Right side is supposing as there is no pics available.


For the writing as they are hand writing it is supposed that a mistake or a bad writer can make this.

My home made decals are designed by a french guy who can hebrew and arab writing and speaking.


Other wise i know US or GB velicles with german markings and German vehicles with US markings. Recuperation Its a common practice during wars
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Posted: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 - 09:19 AM UTC
ah sorry, never saw that pic, but anyway, they were 2 separate militias but with the same enemy "Kataeb" and the same ideology (Abdel Nasser socialism) , so not strange to see their markings on the same vehicle.
the "Mourabitoun" in the pic is correctly written, all you have to do is add a point over the last letter ن and a ا over the ط
anyway, it's your kit, you are free to do whatever you want, and it's a great kit, Im looking forward to seeing the Kataeb version, keep us updated with pics.
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