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"спасайся!" - BMP-2 diorama

Berkut916

Joined: October 01, 2009
KitMaker: 149 posts
Armorama: 137 posts

Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 11:01 PM UTC

Gundam-Mecha

Joined: August 05, 2009
KitMaker: 1,019 posts
Armorama: 933 posts

Posted: Thursday, May 20, 2010 - 11:42 PM UTC
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Hello. You get everything perfect. On the rear side door, you have to whittle away unwanted horizontal strip of plastic on the real machines that item no.
Thanks for the kind comments and the tip. If I'm right are you saying that the DML/Zvezda kit has incorrect rear door? That the raised detail should be removed? I wonder why Dragon included that, seems quite odd. Thanks for pointing it out though I totally overlooked that.

roudeleiw

Joined: January 19, 2004
KitMaker: 2,406 posts
Armorama: 2,224 posts

Posted: Friday, May 21, 2010 - 12:57 AM UTC
Hi Jon,
i have nothing constructive to add except to say that you are doing a great job here!
Great modellbuilding!
Claude
i have nothing constructive to add except to say that you are doing a great job here!
Great modellbuilding!
Claude

Gundam-Mecha

Joined: August 05, 2009
KitMaker: 1,019 posts
Armorama: 933 posts

Posted: Friday, May 21, 2010 - 01:54 AM UTC
Thanks Claude thats very kind of you! The scratch building is a little rough around the edges and not so great, but I guess I have to start somewhere! 
I read somewhere that the rear doors of the BMP-2 also hold fuel cells? Does anyone know if that is true? I only ask because originally I was planning to pose one of the figures behind the open door taking cover from small arms fire. However if its also a Fuel cell that would rule that out as it would be too dangerous? Then again the Infantry are expected to sit on top of the main fuel cell!
Making the doors fuel cells also seems really odd and very dangerous. In a combat area wouldn't they all just burn to death as they exit the vehicle if enemy fire hit those open doors?

I read somewhere that the rear doors of the BMP-2 also hold fuel cells? Does anyone know if that is true? I only ask because originally I was planning to pose one of the figures behind the open door taking cover from small arms fire. However if its also a Fuel cell that would rule that out as it would be too dangerous? Then again the Infantry are expected to sit on top of the main fuel cell!
Making the doors fuel cells also seems really odd and very dangerous. In a combat area wouldn't they all just burn to death as they exit the vehicle if enemy fire hit those open doors?

bison126

Joined: June 10, 2004
KitMaker: 5,329 posts
Armorama: 5,204 posts

Posted: Friday, May 21, 2010 - 06:53 AM UTC
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I read somewhere that the rear doors of the BMP-2 also hold fuel cells? Does anyone know if that is true? I only ask because originally I was planning to pose one of the figures behind the open door taking cover from small arms fire. However if its also a Fuel cell that would rule that out as it would be too dangerous? Then again the Infantry are expected to sit on top of the main fuel cell!
Making the doors fuel cells also seems really odd and very dangerous. In a combat area wouldn't they all just burn to death as they exit the vehicle if enemy fire hit those open doors?
Hi Jon,
yes this is true but I guess the doors are armored enough to prevent "unexpected" fire setting to the fuel.
On the other hand, fuel is reputedly a good protection againt hollow charges but in the case of the BMPs as you get nothing after the door fuel cell, I fear this is of no help at all.
Another drawback of the fuel cell is the increase in the door weight. I remember a discussion with a former infantry leader telling one his guys had been crushed by the door being slammed shut for some reason while he already had his legs outside ! The poor guy did not survive to his injuries.
Good job on fixing the central fuel cell BTW !
Olivier

Gundam-Mecha

Joined: August 05, 2009
KitMaker: 1,019 posts
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Posted: Friday, May 21, 2010 - 11:53 AM UTC
Thanks Olivier
That sure is interesting. Perhaps then I can still get away with posing one of the passengers behind the open rear door after all
My next challenge is the firing ports on the inside of the passenger section. I'm still deciding the best way to work on these, it'll be tricky though as the space inside is so small...
That sure is interesting. Perhaps then I can still get away with posing one of the passengers behind the open rear door after all

My next challenge is the firing ports on the inside of the passenger section. I'm still deciding the best way to work on these, it'll be tricky though as the space inside is so small...

erwin_rommel

Joined: July 20, 2009
KitMaker: 105 posts
Armorama: 24 posts

Posted: Saturday, May 22, 2010 - 10:01 PM UTC
The tent isn`t on it`s place
that`s why those who`re sitting in the troop compartment couldn`t escape

that`s why those who`re sitting in the troop compartment couldn`t escape

afv_rob

Joined: October 09, 2005
KitMaker: 2,556 posts
Armorama: 2,199 posts

Posted: Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 01:07 AM UTC
Yes the rear doors and hull access hatches on the BMP 1 and 2 contain fuel cells, however ive read that these are generally not filled, unless the vehicle is travelling long distances, also the likelihood of the fuel actually igniting from a hit is slim.
Check this thread on militaryphotos.net for some details provided by an actual BMP crewman:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?132972-Was-the-design-of-BMP-1-s-gun-idiotic
Check this thread on militaryphotos.net for some details provided by an actual BMP crewman:
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?132972-Was-the-design-of-BMP-1-s-gun-idiotic

Gundam-Mecha

Joined: August 05, 2009
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Posted: Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 10:06 AM UTC
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The tent isn`t on it`s place![]()
that`s why those who`re sitting in the troop compartment couldn`t escape
Hi Aleksey, I'm not sure I understand. What do you mean by tent?
I'm actually in Minsk now with my wife, I see you are from Brest?


Gundam-Mecha

Joined: August 05, 2009
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Posted: Sunday, May 23, 2010 - 07:12 PM UTC
Thanks for sharing the link Rob, thats real interesting!

andymon

Joined: July 26, 2009
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 05:38 AM UTC

chefchris

Joined: February 06, 2006
KitMaker: 1,544 posts
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Posted: Monday, August 30, 2010 - 06:17 AM UTC
Andreas,
Its the AT-5 Spandrel and launcher. The brass part is from Modelpoint and is quite nice.
Chris
Its the AT-5 Spandrel and launcher. The brass part is from Modelpoint and is quite nice.
Chris

gizmo21

Joined: January 11, 2006
KitMaker: 209 posts
Armorama: 155 posts

Posted: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 - 05:51 AM UTC
And very hard to find.......
Iam looking for one, for my bmp....
great build BTW, really like it
greetings
chris

Iam looking for one, for my bmp....
great build BTW, really like it
greetings
chris

bill1

Joined: August 14, 2005
KitMaker: 3,938 posts
Armorama: 520 posts

Posted: Friday, September 03, 2010 - 05:57 AM UTC
Yo Jon,
Good to see this one is back on the tracks!
Nice update!
Greetz Nico
Good to see this one is back on the tracks!
Nice update!
Greetz Nico

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