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shonen_red
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Posted: Monday, July 28, 2003 - 12:34 AM UTC
Can washes be applied by airbrush? I wanna try Tamiya's smoke. I heard someone here uses it for wash. Should I still thin it or apply directly? Which is better? Applying by airbrush or by brushing?
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Posted: Monday, July 28, 2003 - 12:46 AM UTC
A wash cannot be applied by AB. (At least I've never heard nor seen it done that way) It should be brushed on. It should be thinned to about 90% thinner/10% paint.
For best results, brush it on a "gloss coated" model. The gloss allows the wash to flow more easily into the nooks and crannies like panel lines, around bolt heads and rivets.
When the wash is dry, you can flat/matt coat the model and proceed with the drybrushing.
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AJLaFleche
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Posted: Monday, July 28, 2003 - 12:54 AM UTC
Someone here once claimed he could od a wash with an AB. As Ken said, use thinned paint applied by brush. In thinning translucent paint to the point of being a wash, you're really loose all the tint. Better to use black or payne's gray oil with thinner. I find it's better to apply it where I want it, rather than slop it over a whole model.
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Posted: Monday, July 28, 2003 - 02:16 AM UTC
In my view you can apply filters, not washes with an AB. Washes need to give shadows and to deposit into recesses and I think it will be quite harder (and time consuming) than doing it with an AB instead than by brush...
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Posted: Monday, July 28, 2003 - 04:56 PM UTC

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Someone here once claimed he could od a wash with an AB. .


Hi Al , it was probably me, and yes washes can be done by airbrush. I'll have to come back & explain later ( it's very simple ) ... I have to record the the documentary on the 3rd Armored Div. at 1:00AM, I need to be there to edit out the commercials.

- ralph
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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 02:38 PM UTC
OK gentlemen, I said it aws simple. Just mix the same as a reg. wash 80 % or 90% thinner to 10% or 20% paint and shoot through your AB at a very low 2 - 3 or 4 psi, into crevices and around raised detail at close range. Works for me. It's actually the same as pre-shading with the airbrus , but using the same mix as for a wash. It just takes the right angle and distance from the surface with the AB.

- ralph
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Posted: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 - 10:34 PM UTC

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OK gentlemen, I said it aws simple. Just mix the same as a reg. wash 80 % or 90% thinner to 10% or 20% paint and shoot through your AB at a very low 2 - 3 or 4 psi, into crevices and around raised detail at close range. Works for me. It's actually the same as pre-shading with the airbrus , but using the same mix as for a wash. It just takes the right angle and distance from the surface with the AB.

- ralph


Oh boy! Maybe I'll try brushing it cause my AB's is about 30 psi
screamingeagle
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Posted: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 - 03:10 PM UTC

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OK gentlemen, I said it aws simple. Just mix the same as a reg. wash 80 % or 90% thinner to 10% or 20% paint and shoot through your AB at a very low 2 - 3 or 4 psi, into crevices and around raised detail at close range. Works for me. It's actually the same as pre-shading with the airbrus , but using the same mix as for a wash. It just takes the right angle and distance from the surface with the AB.

- ralph


Oh boy! Maybe I'll try brushing it cause my AB's is about 30 psi


Hi Shonen Red ..... to be quite honest, I do prefer the good ole' conventional washes applied with a brush, but I just wanted to give verification that they can & have been done by airbrush. The one nice thing about airbrushing a wash is that like airbrushing a common mixed paint to thinner ratio, both methods when sprayed become atomized ......... hence, you get a wash that dries quicker than a conventional wash and usually don't get that " ring " or outline that you end up having to wipe off with a broad sized wash. it just naturally feathers / blends with the finish. IMHO both type have their pro's & con's.

- ralph
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