I have the Academy M48A5. If memory serves it can be used to build an M48A5K or a National Guard A5 with the Israeli-designed cupola.

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I have the Academy M48A5. If memory serves it can be used to build an M48A5K or a National Guard A5 with the Israeli-designed cupola.

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It can be built as a ROK M48A5K or a M48A5 used by 72AR 2ID in Korea, the only active duty unit to use the M48A5. The difference between the A5s used by 72AR and NG A5s is it had smoke launchers like on the M1 and a .50cal mount on the Urdan. NG A5s used a M60D on the Urdan and had no smoke launchers.

Sabot what unit were you in in 85? I was in Bco 1/102 armor and had my AT at Drum that year.

I seem to remember some of the 48s in very faded summer verdant. Those tanks were light green and a gray green with black and sand. It would be a good excersise in making faded paint. My first summer camp was in 83 and we used the same tanks until 89 and they were never repainted and stored outside without tarps 24/7.

Tom

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Sabot what unit were you in in 85? I was in Bco 1/102 armor and had my AT at Drum that year.

I seem to remember some of the 48s in very faded summer verdant. Those tanks were light green and a gray green with black and sand. It would be a good excersise in making faded paint. My first summer camp was in 83 and we used the same tanks until 89 and they were never repainted and stored outside without tarps 24/7.

Tom

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The 86th Brigade (Vermont National Guard) used to belong to the 50th Armor Division. Our tank battalions were 1st & 2nd battalions of the 172nd Armor Regiment.

I went to basic in the summer of 1983 and AIT as a 12F (CEV crewman) in 1984 (split training option). I belonged to D Co. 104th Engineers in Vermont (the rest of the 104th was in NJ).

After I was branched Armor in 1985, I still technically belonged to the 104th, but started drilling with 2-172 AR. After I went to ROTC Advanced Camp in 1985, I went to AT with my battalion and then went to CTLT with one of the Armor battalions out of NJ for their AT. We probably were at Drum at the same time since I spent 4 weeks up there late in the summer of 1985.

B/1-102 sounds familiar but I can't swear it was the NJARNG unit I went with. I remember that the Co CO was a nice guy with white hair. One of the platoon leader's name was 2LT Phil Keyes (got a photo of him on an old M103 at the range). He and I served together in the 8th ID in Germany together in the late 80s. The other platoon leader was a heavy 1LT who was infantry. I don't remember his name, but I do have a photo of him. He took a shot of himself with my camera making a funny face. He had black hair and a moustache.

Another guy I remember was the driver. He was a Spec 5 (last one I ever saw) named Kenny. He was a Vietnam vet. The 1st Sgt was called Garfield (after the cat), but I do not remember his real name.

I am surprised I remember this much; it was a quarter century ago.

Edit: just dug out the old, pink military pay voucher for that CTLT (Cadet Troop Leadership Training). I was with that NJ unit from 10-24 Aug 1985, but it lists my unit as my college (Hofstra) and not the NJ unit I trained with.